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    Packers: Barnett tackles talk of switch
    JASON WILDE
    608-252-6176
    jwilde@madison.com
    GREEN BAY - Nick Barnett wanted to get something off his chest Tuesday afternoon.

    The Green Bay Packers middle linebacker - for now, anyway - does not want to move to another position. Period.

    Not that Barnett has anything against rookie Abdul Hodge, whose play during the first two weeks of training camp has been eye-opening. In fact, Barnett is all for the Abdul-a-palooza that camp has become over the past week, as the youngster has stood out to coaches, teammates, reporters and fans alike during practice and Saturday night's intrasquad scrimmage.

    But Barnett, the team's 2003 first-round draft pick and leading tackler each of the past three seasons, doesn't just dislike the idea of moving outside from mike (middle) to the less glamorous sam (strong-side) spot, he hates it.

    So when approached by a reporter after practice Tuesday, Barnett didn't even wait until the question was asked.

    "I really get offended sometimes when you guys ask me about moving. Why would I move?" said Barnett, who set a franchise record with 194 tackles last season. "I'm the vet in this defense. I've been playing the middle linebacker position for three years. I haven't (played poorly). I've been balling ever since I've been here. Let's be honest.

    "There's been some plays here or there where I've made mistakes. I'll give you that. But that happens to all players. After playing three straight years, it starts to irk me, talking about this. It's not going to happen. I ain't playing sam."

    Uh, Nick - don't be so sure about that.

    Asked after practice whether he thought Barnett was capable of moving outside to sam, coach Mike McCarthy said, "I have no reason to think that he's not (able to play sam). ... I think it's been obvious that there is a comfort level (Hodge) does have so far at the mike linebacker. So that's something we may explore."

    See, here's the crux of the problem: Hodge played mike linebacker at Iowa, and was terrific in that role. But because he's not as adept in pass coverage and there are questions about his lower-body strength against the run, there are those - Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz being one of them - who think he can only play in the middle in the NFL.

    Meanwhile, the coaches have vowed to play their three best linebackers, and if Hodge is one of them and joins Barnett and fellow rookie A.J. Hawk, the No. 5 overall pick, someone has to play at sam.

    Throughout camp, Hawk has worked outside at the will (weak-side) linebacker spot, Barnett at his customary mike spot and free-agent pickup Ben Taylor at sam - though Hodge did take a few snaps there during Tuesday's practice.

    And, as Barnett admitted Tuesday, the Packers aren't going to move the high-profile Hawk to the lowest-profile linebacker position.

    "They need A.J. at will. When you draft somebody that high, you want to put him at the mike or the will so they'll have productive numbers," Barnett said. "And I understand the reasoning of wanting to move me to the sam, because I can cover and I'm a smart player, but I think Abdul's smart enough to play that position, too.

    "I don't think they're giving him enough credit. I think he can play sam. It's not that hard of a position. But what's wrong with Ben (Taylor)? Ben's been excellent at sam. Why are we even talking about this?"

    Barnett said neither McCarthy nor defensive coordinator Bob Sanders has broached the subject of moving him to sam, even though the preseason opener is Saturday at San Diego and the regular-season opener is a month away, Sept. 10 against Chicago.

    "Right now, we're trying to keep all scenarios open, but we haven't played a preseason game yet," Sanders said. "There's a lot of practice time left."

    The other thing that bothers Barnett is that, although he's playing for his fourth coordinator in four years, Sanders at least kept the same scheme as Jim Bates. Moving to a new position would mean whatever year-to-year continuity Barnett had coming into this season would be out the window.

    On top of that, Barnett says moving to sam would hurt him at the free-agent bargaining table, since his contract expires after the 2007 season and his numbers would nosedive from the 490 tackles, six sacks, five interceptions and five forced fumbles he's had the past three years.

    "Look, I can play it. I can play any linebacker position we've got," Barnett said. "But you start to think about other things as well, as far as your future. My free-agent year is coming up. You move me to sam, (and it's) really an unproductive position, doesn't get a lot of opportunities to make tackles.

    "They talk to me about being a leader, and that's what I'm trying to do. You move me to sam, I go to being a quiet player in the back of the huddle, just by nature of the position. I don't see it happening, honestly."

  • #2
    I don't have a problem with him wanting to stay at MLB. I wish he wasn't so frontal about it, and I wish he didn't bring up his stats and future contract (although it's only natural to think it). Maybe the Packers should give him a nice tidy extension with the cap room. That should alleviate his worries about a future contract.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #3
      That's irritating. His entire reason for not wanting to move is he wants the payday and notoriety all do himself. He is putting himself above the team. Ridiculous.

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      • #4
        He is right Ben Talyor is doing a fine job at SAM, thats why I want Nick to get the starting Nickel and Dime position.

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        • #5
          I like the honest answers from the guy no fricken politiking! Why would we move him? because fans dont like him or his 194 tackles last year? I think this is getting too much press however after this year when he excels again we need to ink him to another deal.
          Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            I don't have a problem with him wanting to stay at MLB. I wish he wasn't so frontal about it, and I wish he didn't bring up his stats and future contract (although it's only natural to think it). Maybe the Packers should give him a nice tidy extension with the cap room. That should alleviate his worries about a future contract.
            Nick Barnett has to learn to take one for his team. I am a fan of Nick Barnett but MM will decide what he needs most from Nick to help us get to the level we deserve to enjoy.

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            • #7
              can anyone put the team first any more?

              Also, sence when do "D" player have bigger egos than "O" players? for the past 3+ years we have had issues with selfishness on the D. They seem to forget its an honor to be able to play the game at the level they do, let the coaches decide where they should line up.

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              • #8
                Ih Hodge pick up the pass defense, then they will make a change, but not until they are certain he has agraps of it. Unless he blows everybody up and plays good pass defense Hodge will be situational this year at the MLB position. He may replace Barnett on short yardage third downs and goal line stands. When it come to the nickel they expect Barnett & hawk to be in and Hodge out, thus having two good LBs in pass defense. I still say by the end of the season Hodge is in the middle and Barnett is either outside or on bench until the nuckel is called for.

                If Barnett thinks his price will go down if he is moved to SAM, how much will he be worth if they decide that Hodge is better on short yardage situations than the starting MLB. The MLB is the run stuffer, if he has to be preplaced on short yardage (and I tell you he will be), then he isn't going to get the money he wants. The only way Barnett stays inthe middle is if he plays a lot better than he has in the past.

                Making a lot of tackles does not make you the best on defense, being in the right place and stopping first downs do. Barnett was not doing it and should be replaced by Hodge, and moved to SAM.

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                • #9
                  This is the funniest thing that is discussed by Packer fans. Barnett is a solid MLB. He isnt moving end of story.
                  Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                  • #10
                    i just lost a lot of respect for nick as soon as he brought up money

                    hodge doesn't have the speed or the cover skills to play outside, i don't think. nick does. hodge brings hard hitting toughness and fear to the middle, nick doesn't. hodge looks like he's capable of making game changing plays, barnett just knows how to tackle when needed

                    if the coaches feel that hodge is better inside then nick, then nick can either move outside, sit his ass on the bench, or learn another new system after he gets tradded somewhere else

                    if nick refuses to move and hodge continues to look good in the middle then nicks time in green bay is almost up

                    preseason will tell us a lot more

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tony Oday
                      This is the funniest thing that is discussed by Packer fans. Barnett is a solid MLB. He isnt moving end of story.
                      he's solid, but he's nothing special

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Creepy
                        Ih Hodge pick up the pass defense, then they will make a change, but not until they are certain he has agraps of it. Unless he blows everybody up and plays good pass defense Hodge will be situational this year at the MLB position. He may replace Barnett on short yardage third downs and goal line stands. When it come to the nickel they expect Barnett & hawk to be in and Hodge out, thus having two good LBs in pass defense. I still say by the end of the season Hodge is in the middle and Barnett is either outside or on bench until the nuckel is called for.

                        If Barnett thinks his price will go down if he is moved to SAM, how much will he be worth if they decide that Hodge is better on short yardage situations than the starting MLB. The MLB is the run stuffer, if he has to be preplaced on short yardage (and I tell you he will be), then he isn't going to get the money he wants. The only way Barnett stays inthe middle is if he plays a lot better than he has in the past.

                        Making a lot of tackles does not make you the best on defense, being in the right place and stopping first downs do. Barnett was not doing it and should be replaced by Hodge, and moved to SAM.
                        Agreed.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by red
                          i just lost a lot of respect for nick as soon as he brought up money

                          hodge doesn't have the speed or the cover skills to play outside, i don't think. nick does. hodge brings hard hitting toughness and fear to the middle, nick doesn't. hodge looks like he's capable of making game changing plays, barnett just knows how to tackle when needed

                          if the coaches feel that hodge is better inside then nick, then nick can either move outside, sit his ass on the bench, or learn another new system after he gets tradded somewhere else

                          if nick refuses to move and hodge continues to look good in the middle then nicks time in green bay is almost up

                          preseason will tell us a lot more
                          put very, very well. I think he made such harsh statements since he's a little worried himself

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Creepy
                            Ih Hodge pick up the pass defense, then they will make a change, but not until they are certain he has agraps of it. Unless he blows everybody up and plays good pass defense Hodge will be situational this year at the MLB position. He may replace Barnett on short yardage third downs and goal line stands. When it come to the nickel they expect Barnett & hawk to be in and Hodge out, thus having two good LBs in pass defense. I still say by the end of the season Hodge is in the middle and Barnett is either outside or on bench until the nuckel is called for.

                            If Barnett thinks his price will go down if he is moved to SAM, how much will he be worth if they decide that Hodge is better on short yardage situations than the starting MLB. The MLB is the run stuffer, if he has to be preplaced on short yardage (and I tell you he will be), then he isn't going to get the money he wants. The only way Barnett stays inthe middle is if he plays a lot better than he has in the past.

                            Making a lot of tackles does not make you the best on defense, being in the right place and stopping first downs do. Barnett was not doing it and should be replaced by Hodge, and moved to SAM.
                            Amen
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                            • #15
                              I knew Barnett would be against this. It's just common sense. The MLB gets all the tackles in this defense. Paris Lenon could have had 180 tackles starting 16 games.

                              Barnett is a good MLB. Hodge is a good MLB. The problem is that Barnett is also a good OLB and Hodge is not. This discussion is not being brought about because Barnett is not good. It's being discussed because Hodge is also good and only fits one position.
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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