Packers fans will forgive Favre, but when will Rodgers?

[The Shadow]

Why is it assumed that all Packer fans will forgive Favre?

[Guiness]

Favre isn't fairing too well in the comments section to the article about this on PFT.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/15/one-packer-says-favre-wants-to-bury-hatchet-with-rodgers/#comments

He appears to continue to lose favor among more than just Packer fans.

Indeed. And he's already screwed this up, he's grandstanding by letting it be known that he wants to call!

If he genuinely wanted to apologize, he'd do it, and take his lumps if they were coming. Look at Earl Hickey, his attempts to make things right on his list don't always go nicely for him, but he still does it!!!

[packerbacker1234]

Why not stay in NY? They have been in the AFC Championship game the last 2 years with Sanchez as their QB. Just think what that O would do with an "above average" QB rather than what they have. And I am not calling BF "above average" I am using that term to classify Sanchez's play.

And they were 8-3 under Favre in 2008 prior to the injury that made him lose all his zip and the deep ball. They would of "won" the division you assume had he not been hurt - so sure their is a legit argument that he had a good set up in NY for a run in 2009.

Until you factor in: NY's offense was not a WC offense. It was unfamiliar and unconfortable for him to change his calls and how he does things after 17+ seasons.

- Dome. Proven fact it has a great ability to extend a QB's career. Less wear and tear on the body, in general as a QB. It's also the preferred conditions to throw a football in. In NY he would have to deal with the cold at home in december.

In fact, I say the Dome is the main reason Peyton Manning isn't getting berraded at 34 the way favre was with retirement questions. His numbers have a greater chances of staying top form when your playing in ideal passing conditions for at least 8 games. Now they are talking about giving Manning, a 34 year old QB at a position that in general is done at 36/37, the biggest contract ever. It's sort of backwards thinking unless you feel manning really does have 5 years of elite play left in him. The only reason I feel confident in that as a team owner is the dome.

Could play in dome with what was considered at least an equal team on paper without a QB in an offense he has mastered, or play in the cold in an offense he isn't confortable with. The only caveat is that the dome team was his previous teams biggest rival at the time. To fans this puts pause, but I can't really begin to understand things from a players perspective. In HS if I my family moved and I ended up at the #1 rival school of my previous HS am I ultimately not going to play ball?

Yeah, he had a "choice", but as a player I don't think the rivalry matters that much to them when you take the jersey off after sunday.

[Bossman641]

And they were 8-3 under Favre in 2008 prior to the injury that made him lose all his zip and the deep ball. They would of "won" the division you assume had he not been hurt - so sure their is a legit argument that he had a good set up in NY for a run in 2009.

Until you factor in: NY's offense was not a WC offense. It was unfamiliar and unconfortable for him to change his calls and how he does things after 17+ seasons.

- Dome. Proven fact it has a great ability to extend a QB's career. Less wear and tear on the body, in general as a QB. It's also the preferred conditions to throw a football in. In NY he would have to deal with the cold at home in december.

In fact, I say the Dome is the main reason Peyton Manning isn't getting berraded at 34 the way favre was with retirement questions. His numbers have a greater chances of staying top form when your playing in ideal passing conditions for at least 8 games. Now they are talking about giving Manning, a 34 year old QB at a position that in general is done at 36/37, the biggest contract ever. It's sort of backwards thinking unless you feel manning really does have 5 years of elite play left in him. The only reason I feel confident in that as a team owner is the dome.

Could play in dome with what was considered at least an equal team on paper without a QB in an offense he has mastered, or play in the cold in an offense he isn't confortable with. The only caveat is that the dome team was his previous teams biggest rival at the time. To fans this puts pause, but I can't really begin to understand things from a players perspective. In HS if I my family moved and I ended up at the #1 rival school of my previous HS am I ultimately not going to play ball?

Yeah, he had a "choice", but as a player I don't think the rivalry matters that much to them when you take the jersey off after sunday.

If you quit the team during 2 a days and then had the coach go out of his way to find a spare uniform for you to play, and then told him forget it and quit again NO you wouldn't be playing.

[woodbuck27]

Why get caught up in something so trivial when we have a Super Bowl to celebrate at least until the nextChampion is crowned at SB 46?

IMO it will come down to this and I quote fr. the thread story"

" They've since become acquaintances, though not friends. That may be the best the Packers will get with Favre and Rodgers.
One day Favre will be inducted into the Hall of Fame, but before that the Packers will retire his number. Just a matter of time. That relationship between the team and fans will be healed. "

What Favre thinks of Aaron Rodgers and vice versa. In that respect they should act like men and we shouldn't really care. It's just a distraction and a pissy low isue topic below this forum.

This is all the matters and what's relevant to that:

GO PACK GO!

[Patler]

- Dome. Proven fact it has a great ability to extend a QB's career. Less wear and tear on the body, in general as a QB. It's also the preferred conditions to throw a football in. In NY he would have to deal with the cold at home in december.

Really? I have heard just the opposite, that the generally harder surfaces of domes are harder on players bodies. It might be faster, more consistent and therefore produce better passing results, but I have always heard that the wear and tear on a players body is worse in domes.

[Scott Campbell]

Favre isn't fairing too well in the comments section to the article about this on PFT.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/15/one-packer-says-favre-wants-to-bury-hatchet-with-rodgers/#comments

He appears to continue to lose favor among more than just Packer fans.

I think he should just just go live his life, and stay away from the organization. He really has no business ever setting foot in Lambeau again. Don't want him. Don't need him. Just glad he's done, and failed to stick it to Ted.

[Smidgeon]

Who cares?

+1

[Cleft Crusty]

Really? I have heard just the opposite, that the generally harder surfaces of domes are harder on players bodies. It might be faster, more consistent and therefore produce better passing results, but I have always heard that the wear and tear on a players body is worse in domes.

This is interesting. Mr. Patler, I respectfully note that all stadiums with artificial turf now use FieldTurf (TM). Clefty has tried to determine whether all fields are constructed with the same subsurface, so determine whether they have a uniform hardness. one might think for example, that the Dallas Monstrosity is harder due to the injuries that occurred there, but Clefty can't find that info. Clefty - from personal experience and from talking to players - has discovered/been told that the field turf tends to be softer, especially in the winter, even though all but one natural or composite surface fields are heated. The old style artificial turf, especially horrible fields like at Philadelphia's Veterans Stadium were rolled carpet over concrete and were brutal on players. The new surfaces may be much more forgiving. How much, and how much relative to natural or composite fields seems to remain unknown.

[Zool]

Who cares?

That about sums it up.

[ThunderDan]

And they were 8-3 under Favre in 2008 prior to the injury that made him lose all his zip and the deep ball. They would of "won" the division you assume had he not been hurt - so sure their is a legit argument that he had a good set up in NY for a run in 2009.

Until you factor in: NY's offense was not a WC offense. It was unfamiliar and unconfortable for him to change his calls and how he does things after 17+ seasons.

- Dome. Proven fact it has a great ability to extend a QB's career. Less wear and tear on the body, in general as a QB. It's also the preferred conditions to throw a football in. In NY he would have to deal with the cold at home in december.

In fact, I say the Dome is the main reason Peyton Manning isn't getting berraded at 34 the way favre was with retirement questions. His numbers have a greater chances of staying top form when your playing in ideal passing conditions for at least 8 games. Now they are talking about giving Manning, a 34 year old QB at a position that in general is done at 36/37, the biggest contract ever. It's sort of backwards thinking unless you feel manning really does have 5 years of elite play left in him. The only reason I feel confident in that as a team owner is the dome.

Could play in dome with what was considered at least an equal team on paper without a QB in an offense he has mastered, or play in the cold in an offense he isn't confortable with. The only caveat is that the dome team was his previous teams biggest rival at the time. To fans this puts pause, but I can't really begin to understand things from a players perspective. In HS if I my family moved and I ended up at the #1 rival school of my previous HS am I ultimately not going to play ball?

Yeah, he had a "choice", but as a player I don't think the rivalry matters that much to them when you take the jersey off after sunday.

Plain and simple. The Jets are a running offense that needs a QB to manage the game. That would have been perfect for BF. It would have limited his throws. Allowed him not to have to take over the game. BF has historically played poorly in domes.

Oh yeah I forgot, BF was under contract with the Jets for 2008 and 2009.

[Fritz]

In the long run, it doesn't really matter if the two of them make nice.

As far as Favre getting himself recognized and being reconciled with the organization, I wonder how he feels about the TT and MM contract extensions? Cuz those two guys are the guys that at the moment hold the key to reconciliation. Maybe Murphy more so.

[Joemailman]

In the long run, it doesn't really matter if the two of them make nice.

As far as Favre getting himself recognized and being reconciled with the organization, I wonder how he feels about the TT and MM contract extensions? Cuz those two guys are the guys that at the moment hold the key to reconciliation. Maybe Murphy more so.

I think Rodgers will matter. If he makes it clear he has no feud with Favre, he'll bring a lot of Packer fans along with him.

That said, I think Favre needs to just go away for a while. Just about everything he says right now is received negatively by people because people are sick of the whole Favre saga. Favre needs to rehabilitate his image as a person before there can be a reconciliation with the Packer organization. That will take some time, and it will take Favre making better decisions than he's made the last couple of years.

[HowardRoark]

I think Favre needs to just go away for a while. Just about everything he says right now is received negatively by people because people are sick of the whole Favre saga. Favre needs to rehabilitate his image as a person before there can be a reconciliation with the Packer organization. That will take some time, and it will take Favre making better decisions than he's made the last couple of years.

Well said.

[HarveyWallbangers]

From USA Today

There's speculation floating that Brett Favre wants to make amends with Aaron Rodgers. But CBS Sports suggests that this year's Super Bowl MVP has no intention of taking a belated congratulatory call from the man he replaced as Packers quarterback.

If so, Rodgers might want to rethink that. Because if Favre resorts to texting an apology there's no telling what might show up on Rodgers' phone.