Super Bowl win opens flood gates....

[LEWCWA]

I guess winning the Super Bowl has opened the floor for anyone and everyone to take pot shots at Favre. It really does amaze me that we as fans have so little class. Brett showed alot of himself (no pun intended) the last few years as being pretty self absorbed, but if that suprises you, you are pretty naive (spelling). I would suggest that most if not all professional athletes are self centered jerks. They have been tutored and coached on saying the right things in front of people, but to get to the big time they are almost all wired to do whats good for them.

Make no mistake, Aaron Rodgers is as cocky and self centered as the rest. I would suggest being very careful about crowning this guy, like most did with Favre. When you put people up on that pedastal the only place they really have to go is down. At some point they will be knocked off, and we will all be wondering how we didn't see it coming.

I really don't understand, why anti Favre folks can't just move on. It is like a disease. You just can't help yourselves from the I told ya so. Then the Brett jock lickers can't let shit go when he was doing well. Why can't we just appreciate the fact that Brett came along at a great time and helped lead this team out of the dark, and like so many others couldn't figure out how to end it with class, and at the same time count our lucky stars that we have been blessed with what looks like another franchise caliber QB. We are lucky to have both players. When it is all said and done the GB Packers may well have 3 of the greatest QB's to ever play the game. What Rodgers does, doesn't diminish what Favre did, it only adds to the Packer history. Brett is one of the greatest Packers ever and will be immortalized in Lambeau and that is a great thing. Hopefully Aaron will put his name up their as well, if he already hasn't.

I for one will not bash Brett to prop up Aaron and I will not bash Aaron to prop up Brett. They are both great players and I feel lucky to have had them both to watch. I can be a fan of both, can you?

[Patler]

If this is in reference to comments (including mine) in the thread "Packers fans will forgive Favre, but when will Rodgers?" I think you criticism is misplaced. No one went out of their way to criticize Favre, just offered their commentary on a published article. Isn't that what we do here a lot of the time?

You say you will not bash Rodgers to prop up Favre, but yet you state, "Make no mistake, Aaron Rodgers is as cocky and self centered as the rest. I would suggest being very careful about crowning this guy, like most did with Favre." Do you really know Rodgers well enough to state that as fact? Isn't that bashing Rodgers to prop up Favre?

What you apparently want is no mention of Favre at all, but that isn't likely to happen for a long time, especially since the national media won't leave it alone.

[Zool]

Nope

[Freak Out]

[Fritz]

Actually, I was thinking just the opposite - that the Super Bowl win has finally quieted all the Favre talk. Sure there's been a thread about whether Rodgers is the most complete Packer QB ever, but have you also noticed that the Favre thread - all zillion pages of it - has finally dropped out of site?

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FAIL

[ThunderDan]

Actually, I was thinking just the opposite - that the Super Bowl win has finally quieted all the Favre talk. Sure there's been a thread about whether Rodgers is the most complete Packer QB ever, but have you also noticed that the Favre thread - all zillion pages of it - has finally dropped out of site?

Someone should really bump that thread.

[Tarlam!]

This is one of the lesser good thread ideas I've seen on here for a long, long time. Your post would have fit nicely into the Patler thread on this.

If it hasn't dawned on you yet, LEWCA, that fans are split and always will be, then I think you'll never get it.

BTW, had Favre retired with grace and taken the public relations gig offered, he'd now be receiving a second ring. How ironic.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rodgers is good.

[channtheman]

Someone should really bump that thread.

I couldn't find it just yesterday.

[Cleft Crusty]

Bart Starr used to treat me poorly in post-game interviews. Three heart attacks and two bowel resections later, I've moved on. Life is too short to get hung up on grudges and hurt feelings. Except for Al Davis. Then it's OK.

[channtheman]

I couldn't find it just yesterday.

Actually I just found it. Guess I was blind yesterday.

[Patler]

Actually, I was thinking just the opposite - that the Super Bowl win has finally quieted all the Favre talk. Sure there's been a thread about whether Rodgers is the most complete Packer QB ever, but have you also noticed that the Favre thread - all zillion pages of it - has finally dropped out of site?

I sure hope no one took THAT thread as a Favre bashing thread. It was trying to draw some historical perspective around the developing career of Aaron Rodgers. It was a Rodgers thread, certainly not a Favre thread anymore than it was a Starr thread or a Dickey thread.

Anyone (and I don't mean to imply you Fritz) who is upset over that type of thread has not let Favre go. If we can't have a Rodgers thread because of the inevitable mention of Favre that will occur, we are in big trouble.

[denverYooper]

[RashanGary]

For how many years did people who questioned Favre's play get ganged up on for their idiocy. Favre brought this team back to relevance. Without him, we are right back to the 70's and 80's. Well, it all shows now as utter BS. A great GM will build a winner regardless of who teh QB is when he steps through the front door. He'll draft one, trade for one and build an all around winner around whoever teh QB is. Bill Polian took the Bills to 4 SBs, then went to Indy and took a perennial loser and made them a perennial winner. Scott Pioli went from NE where he had a perennial winner to teh Chiefs and now transformed them from garbage to excellent.

Bob Harlan changed the way football operated in Green Bay. He found Ron Wolf and gave him complete control. Wolf built winners. With our without Favre, we had winners in Green Bay. Then he made a mistake with Sherman, but Sherman rode out Wolf's roster, depleted it and was fired. Harlan's last brilliant move was hiring TT. With or without Favre he was going to build a winner. With our without Rodgers he'll have a winner. Give a great personnel guy complete control and he will build a winner. That is Harlan's legacy.

All of the adoration and credit the Favre fans give to Favre for bringing this organization back to relevance, that belongs with Bob Harlan.


And when he left he made sure to pass down to a successor who believes in the same vision. As long as teh Packers find the best football guy to build the football team, they will be winners. Because we don't have an owner, that is very likely to be the case.


Bottom line, we were told how much we were going to miss taht guy for 10 years so now that he's gone, like many of us expected, we could care less taht he's gone. . . . Yeah, it feels good. And then there's teh matter of having a QB who's playing better. Yeah, we had one guy were were supposed to believe was god in a Packer uniform for 16 years. To have a guy outplaying him is news. The legit part of Favre's legacy is his durablity and hwo long he played. How great he was, he might be the most overrated player in the history of the NFL.

The Giants, Falcons and Steelers games were the three best Packer performances by a QB in huge games I've ever seen. I watched Favre for 16 years. He wasn't that good. Fact. He has stats and played for a long time. That's it.