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  • #46
    Originally posted by Patler View Post
    The credibility of this analysis is suspect when he uses Hornung, Taylor and Green as evidence of the Packers not treating aging running backs well.

    Hornung was lost in the expansion draft. Hornung was physically a wreak by then, and in fact never played another game because of the condition of his back. Teams could protect only a small number of players. It was known the Packers couldn't protect Hornung, but it was doubted the Saints would take him because of the likelihood he might not ever play again. Tom Fears, a former Packer Assistant, was the Saints head coach and took Hornung to draw fans. It ended up being a wasted pick for the Saints. The Packers also lost two other very good players in that expansion. The Saints first took Bill Curry from the Packers, then traded him to the Colts for Gary Cuozo to be their starting QB. Curry went on to a multiple Pro Bowl career with the Colts. The Packers also lost Phil Vandersea, who Lombardi liked so much that he traded a draft pick to reacquire him a year later.

    Taylor was lost when his contract expired. There were stories of a fractured relationship by then between Taylor and Lombardi, but Taylor was also able to return home by signing a lucrative contract with the Saints. Taylor is from Baton Rouge and played at LSU. Some say it was what Taylor wanted and Lombardi let happen for him. Taylor only played one more year, and not all that well.

    Green? The Packers tried to keep him, but the Texans gave him an outrageous contract. $23 million 4 year contract with $7 million guaranteed for a beat up running back who played very little after that. As it was, if I recall correctly, the Packers offered a two year contract that with incentives could have made him as much per year, but with a smaller guarantee.

    I don't think any of those three situations over the last 44 years indicates that the Packers jettison useful running backs just for the heck of it.
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    • #47
      Not just that, he calls Ahman Green Ahmad.

      Point here I think is that

      - Bleach Report Sucks
      - Grant is indeed valuable, and you just need to look at his 2009 numbers to prove it.
      - Most great offenses don't have their star RB score every game. By the logic used to say grant didn't score in 7 games in 2009 as being a reason he is bad, AP didn't score in 4 games in 2010 and didn't score in 6 games in 2008. By that account his 2009 with 18 td's was an anomoly, and has such AP sucks. Truth is that We are a passing offense, and as such, rushing TD's are not as prevelant as just being able to move the chains. Grant did that in 2009, did an alright job in 2008, and helped spark our offense in 2007.

      People have always undervalued how good Grant really is. He may not be an elite runner, but he's a consistent runner. He's in the top 12 in the league easily. Where he ranks among those 12 is up for debate. You don't dump that, not when he will be 29, has VERY little wear and tear for his age, and could easily have 3 or 4 good years left in the tank.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
        Why do people even bother with the Belcher Report?
        Have you given this site a decent look? It has interesting articles that are open for discussion in terms of their merit and Belcher Report covers the NFL comprehensively.

        ie loads of Packer news and news on any NFL team a fan may desires news on.

        This particular article covers a criticle issue concerning a RB coming off a season long injury and allows us to discuss that as it concerns our RB situation in general.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
          Have you given this site a decent look? It has interesting articles that are open for discussion in terms of their merit and Belcher Report covers the NFL comprehensively.

          ie loads of Packer news and news on any NFL team a fan may desires news on.

          This particular article covers a criticle issue concerning a RB coming off a season long injury and allows us to discuss that as it concerns our RB situation in general.

          GO PACKERS GO!
          But if their information is inaccurate, what's the point?
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          • #50
            Originally posted by packerbacker1234 View Post

            People have always undervalued how good Grant really is. He may not be an elite runner, but he's a consistent runner. He's in the top 12 in the league easily. Where he ranks among those 12 is up for debate. You don't dump that, not when he will be 29, has VERY little wear and tear for his age, and could easily have 3 or 4 good years left in the tank.

            Well said. I doubt he has 4 years left, but I'm pretty sure he has two. NO WAY we dump Ryan Grant right now. If Ted Drafts a really good back, Starks has a good year and Grant has a down year, we'll talk. For now, it's no conversation. Grant is a Packer.
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            • #51
              Alright, alright, alright. Look. First things first, I want to see how the ankle performs and whether the injury has any lasting effect. If it doesn't, there's no reason we can't keep a two-headed monster in the backfield with a third down back as well. We can eliminate a fullback if need be.
              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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              • #52
                Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
                But if their information is inaccurate, what's the point?
                Your point is MJ ? That if you don't agree with the premise of an article fr. this site . Then the site is to be judged inferior or not creditable?

                If so, where do you stand on the Bible?
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                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                  Your point is MJ ? That if you don't agree with the premise of an article fr. this site . Then the site is to be judged inferior or not creditable?

                  If so, where do you stand on the Bible?
                  When you give me a long and incredibly persuasive (not gonna happen) list of reasons why I would want to get into a biblical discussion with you, then I might consider it--but probably not.

                  Wait a minute!! So you're comparing the accuracy of a blog that cannot even get the players names right to the bible? That creates an interesting conundrum, don't you think?
                  Last edited by MJZiggy; 02-20-2011, 09:29 AM.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                    Your point is MJ ? That if you don't agree with the premise of an article fr. this site . Then the site is to be judged inferior or not creditable?

                    If so, where do you stand on the Bible?
                    Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
                    When you give me a long and incredibly persuasive (not gonna happen) list of reasons why I would want to get into a biblical discussion with you, then I might consider it--but probably not.

                    Wait a minute!! So you're comparing the accuracy of a blog that cannot even get the players names right to the bible? That creates an interesting conundrum, don't you think?
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #55
                      The Bible is a blog?
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        The Bible is a blog?
                        The first blog. And it only contains snark inspired directly by God.
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                        • #57
                          So it's God's blog?
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            The Bible is a blog?
                            Sure, just not a lot of recent postings.

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                            • #59
                              You are a nest of vipers and thieves, and by the grace of the almighty God, I will root you out! (That would fit on Twitter!)
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                                Sure, just not a lot of recent postings.
                                At the end of Revelations, there has been a much debated entry that did not seem to fit in any established form of writing at the time, nor did it appear to be a signature. Its meaning was unknown for two millennia. Until the internet came along and provided a clue:

                                awk
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