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  • more viking trouble...

    per adam shefter via twitter...sidney rice won't resign before checking out free agency. hehe.

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    Isn't that the case with most players and teams? Not a ton of guys getting signed right now.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #3
      Rice would be smart to leave now. He's not likely to have much production without a QB.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        Isn't that the case with most players and teams? Not a ton of guys getting signed right now.
        Depends. Some are signing if they fall into the netherworld of RFA/FA rules that changed at the beginning of this current league year. Lots of Franchise tenders signed early too for the same reason.

        The odd thing about Rice is that he got a long term contract offer. That is the one thing that is not happening across the league. Depending on Rice's years in the league, he may feel like he will definitely get a shot at FA this year. Sometime.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #5
          IMO this is good news; James Jones could be looking for money out there via free agency this year as well so I'm hoping he's not the most sought after one.

          We have a lot of guys that will be looking to get paid; the longer the holdout the better IMO the chances of them returning..even if it is on a one yr deal.
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
            IMO this is good news; James Jones could be looking for money out there via free agency this year as well so I'm hoping he's not the most sought after one.

            We have a lot of guys that will be looking to get paid; the longer the holdout the better IMO the chances of them returning..even if it is on a one yr deal.
            I think in the pecking order for FA WRs, it goes something like: Santonio Holmes, Sidney Rice, Braylon Edwards, Eric Weems, Steve Smith (NYG), Malcom Floyd, Brad Smith, Lance Moore, James Jones.

            Jones wouldn't be the top FA WR even if Rice resigned with the Vikings.
            </delurk>

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            • #7
              You forgot Randy Moss!
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                You forgot Randy Moss!
                No, guys like Moss and T.O. are less valuable as free agents than anybody I mentioned. Moss (Randy, not Santana although Santana is also a free agent) would be like the #20 FA WR this year.
                </delurk>

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                • #9
                  If I were Rice, I wouldnt sign with the Vikings. They are a franchise that put everything on the line to win it in 2009 or 2010. They failed. They will now have to rebuild for at least 3 years. Good luck.

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                  • #10
                    he should run, not walk, away from the vikings.


                    per jason laconfora...One other note with Sidney Rice - if the NFLPA decertifies, he could end up being restricted free agent with 4 accrued seasons.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                      he should run, not walk, away from the vikings.


                      per jason laconfora...One other note with Sidney Rice - if the NFLPA decertifies, he could end up being restricted free agent with 4 accrued seasons.
                      It would be even better if he ends up hating the Vikings because he was tendered as an RFA and forced to play there.
                      </delurk>

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                        I think in the pecking order for FA WRs, it goes something like: Santonio Holmes, Sidney Rice, Braylon Edwards, Eric Weems, Steve Smith (NYG), Malcom Floyd, Brad Smith, Lance Moore, James Jones.

                        Jones wouldn't be the top FA WR even if Rice resigned with the Vikings.
                        I'm guessing you are underestimating the interest in Jones. I can see Holmes and Rice being the top two guys. If healthy, Steve Smith will draw interest. I'm guessing Jones gets more money than Weems, Floyd, Smith, and Moore. I think it's very possible that he gets more money than Edwards. Not only is Edwards a prima donna, he hasn't really been very productive. Six years in the league, and he's only had one season with more than 61 receptions and one season with more than 904 yards.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #13
                          Maybe I need something explained wrt how signing a contract at this time would work to convince me Rice (and others turning down contracts) are not idiots?

                          If a player were to sign a deal now, he would stand to get a signing bonus...which would be paid immediately. If he doesn't sign, and becomes a free agent but there's no CBA, he gets nothing...and has to weather the lockout on what he's already got in the bank, right? Wouldn't it make sense to take the signing bonus now, and have a nest egg?
                          --
                          Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                            Maybe I need something explained wrt how signing a contract at this time would work to convince me Rice (and others turning down contracts) are not idiots?

                            If a player were to sign a deal now, he would stand to get a signing bonus...which would be paid immediately. If he doesn't sign, and becomes a free agent but there's no CBA, he gets nothing...and has to weather the lockout on what he's already got in the bank, right? Wouldn't it make sense to take the signing bonus now, and have a nest egg?
                            The signing bonuses being offered at the current time have been pretty limited. Champ Bailey got $11 million guaranteed but no signing bonus. Given Rice's age, he might be offered something, but not a windfall.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #15
                              Ize just kidding about Moss.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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