McCarthy: Backup QB Flynn is not available

[packerbacker1234]

Flynn's short passing game was a beauty to watch. I remember back during the NE game people here were raving about two things:

1. Just how effective this new type of offense looked with Flynn.
2. MM's playcalling and how it was completely different than what he had done all year.
3. How effecient Flynn was in the game, and how he seemed to always make the right read and get the ball out fast. I believe he also stretched the filed on 2 passes in the game, just to keep the defense honest. Had to show off that hey, the guy CAN get it 50 yards down the field, even if it wont arrive as quickly as it would from Rodgers.
4. That Flynn was a perfect YAC Passer. More about getting his players in the best position to turn 5 and 12 yard passes into 20 yard gains versus throwing the ball 20 to 30 yards down field for an immediate tackle. Reminds you a lot of some of the touch we happened to see from Favre in 2009, touch passes that we were wondering why they didn't appear all the time he was in GB. Grant it that's a different debate on why Favre was a completely different QB for them then he was for us that season, but Flynn showed A LOT of Moxy. One week of starter practice, in the middle of the season at that (after running Scout team all year), and he walks in on hte road and has the best team in the NFL on the ropes.

He's good. I think other teams also saw that he was good. Credit to MM on his coaching ability. Also credit to the packers for holding onto this guy as long as we can. He could play a big role for us next year if Rodgers has to miss ANY time, and I'm sure now that he had to start a game he'll get more reps with the ones in TC and in season for the off chance he has to play, that way there wont be any more 2 minute confusion or stepping into a game in detroit with zero preparation. I think this is a sign they will be preparing Flynn to actually see game time on a moments notice from here on out.

Besides, I doubt anyone is willing to part with a first rounder for him, and that's most likely the only thing we would take to ship out a quality backup which could be a requirement as we enter 18 game schedules.

[RashanGary]

Flynn had a hell of a game. One knock, on the the plays where his intial read wasn't open, Rodgers does a good job hanging in there and finding an open guy. Flynn got skiddish after his 3 second clock went off and he took sacks where he should have had long completions.

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Waht I liked most about Flynn is when he would throw a short pass, they were always in the best possible location for the player to make a big play after the catch. You saw a lot more YAC with Flynn. Maybe he doesn't throw it as hard or far, but he's elite at putting his guy in position to make a play.


I'm going to be really curious to see how his career unfolds.

I'm hoping you think there's a chance that NFL GM's are going to google 'Matt Flynn', stumble upon this thread and do their research on what Packer fans think of Matt Flynn in an attempt to drive up his value

Matt Flynn is a top 32 NFL QB and will end up starting in the near future but he's no where near 'elite' in any category at this point in his career. JH, weren't you the same guy saying after the NE game that the Packers might be better off with Flynn at QB (over Rodgers) because his skillset lends more to "managing our offense better"? Come on man!

He didn't beat Detroit. He didn't beat NE even though our defense completely shut down Tom Brady for much of the game. It is what it is. The guy is a great QB prospect but he isn't anything more than that at this point. He's 0-2 in NFL games. He might end up being 100-2, but at this point, you and I could have the same record QB'ing for the Pack.

Graham Harrell is the biggest determining factor in deciding what to do with Matt Flynn outside of the CBA situation. If they feel he's progressing, then they're just playing hard to get and trying to drive up his value. If they think Harrell is still a long-term project, then they're telling the truth and will let him go in FA or maybe give him a two year extension with trade options after year one. Either way, they are not going to show their hand as far as opinions on Harrell at this point. I've seen none and don't anticipate reading anything in the very near future. This is the same front office that was satisfied with a rookie Flynn as backup when everyone was clamoring for him to sign a vet. These guys know what they're doing.

[swede]

Top 32.

I like that. It has a Rodney Peete kind of ring about it.

[Fritz]

Good call Swede.

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Top 32.

I like that. It has a Rodney Peete kind of ring about it.

Kinda, but wasn't Rodney top 32 by default? You know, like 1st round entitlement for a horrible team...


(or was he actually 'decent enough' for a year or two? i can't really remember)

[King Friday]

I see what you're saying, but I would follow up with this question:

How often does AR pass into the flat? I think he rarely does it because he doesn't need to as opposed to that he doesn't have great touch. He pushes downfield instead.

He needs to start working on dump-offs...or he will be decapitated.

It would also help to have a RB that can actually be a capable receiver out of the backfield on 1st and 2nd down.

[VegasPackFan]

So from what I am reading in this thread, Rodgers will retire early due to concussion problems and either Matt Flynn is the future of our franchise or TT will draft a QB early this year to cover for Rodgers' impending early retirement....

[mraynrand]

So from what I am reading in this thread, Rodgers will retire early due to concussion problems and either Matt Flynn is the future of our franchise or TT will draft a QB early this year to cover for Rodgers' impending early retirement....

There's one scenario where Flynn plays poorly in a Divisional playoff game against Dallas, marries a Holly Robinson look-alike, has four kids, gains tons of weight, and lives happily ever after. Check with Swede on that alternate time stream.

[swede]

Originally Posted by swede
Top 32.

I like that. It has a Rodney Peete kind of ring about i

Kinda, but wasn't Rodney top 32 by default? You know, like 1st round entitlement for a horrible team...


(or was he actually 'decent enough' for a year or two? i can't really remember)

I was shooting for the kind of quarterback who started for a few different teams and won games but inspired the GM to keep looking hard for the next QB.
"Top 32" seems to me to be a kind way of saying "You suck a little bit".

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I was shooting for the kind of quarterback who started for a few different teams and won games but inspired the GM to keep looking hard for the next QB.
"Top 32" seems to me to be a kind way of saying "You suck a little bit".

OK, I'd say that's fairly accurate. He's good but has some areas of suckage that he can improve on.

[Guiness]

I'd rather have Flynn than the currently projected #1 pick in the draft, Cam Newton. I one year wonder with no experience in a pro-style offense, probably headed to Carolina where he'll be starting sooner rather than later. Recipe for disaster.

[Smidgeon]

I'd rather have Flynn than the currently projected #1 pick in the draft, Cam Newton. I one year wonder with no experience in a pro-style offense, probably headed to Carolina where he'll be starting sooner rather than later. Recipe for disaster.

Well, let's take that as a starting point: are there any QBs in this year's draft that anyone would prefer to Flynn? This year or otherwise.

[Packers4Ever]

Rodgers is one more head shot away from retirement. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Thompson drafted a QB above the 4th round.

PLEASE don't say that, don't even think it !! Arod has to stay in great shape - plus our new QB,
Flynn was so impressive in our game w/Patriots - he's a must-keep !!

[Tarlam!]

Graham Harrell is the biggest determining factor in deciding what to do with Matt Flynn outside of the CBA situation. If they feel he's progressing, then they're just playing hard to get and trying to drive up his value. If they think Harrell is still a long-term project, then they're telling the truth and will let him go in FA or maybe give him a two year extension with trade options after year one. Either way, they are not going to show their hand as far as opinions on Harrell at this point. I've seen none and don't anticipate reading anything in the very near future. This is the same front office that was satisfied with a rookie Flynn as backup when everyone was clamoring for him to sign a vet. These guys know what they're doing.

This. I've been thinking exactly this and it's too bad there's no QB school for all concerned. For Harrell to profit, for TT and M3 to make the call and for Flynn, because if Harrell is as good as Flynn year 1, Flynn would get to start elsewhere next season.