Packer Rats MOCK DRAFT

[woodbuck27]

The Kansas City Chiefs go into this draft looking for an OLB to pair with Tamba Hali, a WR to pair with Dwayne Bowe, and a Nose Tackle to complete their defensive line.

With Miller, Quinn, Smith, Kerrigan, Houston, and Ayers off the board the cupboard is bare at OLB.

At the start of the process, the Chiefs had hoped that Justin Blackmon would declare for the draft meaning that the Chiefs would potentially have a shot at either Blackmon or Julio Jones. Unfortunately both Blackmon and Michael Floyd elected to go back to school so there's not another first round calibre WR, so this position is better addressed later.

The Chiefs regret passing on B.J. Raji in 2009 to take Tyson Jackson. Not that Tyson Jackson has been a disappointment, but more that the defense really needs a nose tackle. So the Chiefs strongly consider Stephen Paea and Phil Taylor at this point. However, with Paea's questionable knee (and lack of ideal length) and Taylor's status as a career underachiever (and a fatass) the Chiefs decide to see if they can find value at another position.

But because they're somewhat surprised that he's on the board here, and because you don't build a great team drafting for need, the Chiefs elect to go BPA and select Gabe Carimi, OT Wisconsin. Carimi instantly has the potential to compete at four offensive line positions, and will assuredly be a starter at one of them. Best case scenario he displaces Albert at LT and Albert moves to his more natural position of LG (though he's been a fine tackle, so this isn't a priority). However, since you don't want Albert on the right side and Barry Richardson is an enigma who only occasionally seems like he would like to play football, Carimi is an instant plug and play at RT. He could also land inside at guard where Waters is declining, Lilja is average, and Asamoah is an unfinished product. The Chiefs could really use an OC, so Penn State's Stefen Wisniewski, but decide that Carimi offers better value here, as Wisniewski is not in the mold of a true first round center.

The Indianapolis Colts and 3irty1 are now on the clock.

Hi Lurker64:

I can see why you overlooked Tyrone Smith of S. Cal at LT (maybe?) because he's coming off knee surgery but I'm wondering about your preference of Gabe Carmini over Nate Soldier of Colorado? Why did you go with Carmini? I ask that question acknowleging your strong knowledge of the draft and to see what I can learn from you .

[3irty1]

The Indiana Colts wet themselves with excitement that the top OT on their board, 20 year old Tyron Smith, somehow made it to them. They laugh their way to the podium like they are robbing a bank in broad daylight.

[woodbuck27]

The Indiana Colts wet themselves with excitement that the top OT on their board, 20 year old Tyron Smith, somehow made it to them. They laugh their way to the podium like they are robbing a bank in broad daylight.

This is interesting (your choice of Tyrone Smith to the Colts) based on my question to Lurker64 (Post above):

I can see why you overlooked Tyrone Smith of S. Cal at LT (maybe?) because he's coming off knee surgery but I'm wondering about your preference of Gabe Carmini over Nate Soldier of Colorado? Why did you go with Carmini? I ask that question acknowleging your strong knowledge of the draft and to see what I can learn from you .

[Smeefers]

I gotta say, this is pretty fun to watch.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Too high for Houston and Ayers IMO. Though reaches happen all the time in the draft.

Where do you have Ayers? He was a consensus top 15 pick until the combine from what I read. But as I gave in my reasons, I'm not going to let the drills at the combine overshadow the overall body of work and displayed ability.

[Bretsky]

The Kansas City Chiefs go into this draft looking for an OLB to pair with Tamba Hali, a WR to pair with Dwayne Bowe, and a Nose Tackle to complete their defensive line.

With Miller, Quinn, Smith, Kerrigan, Houston, and Ayers off the board the cupboard is bare at OLB.

At the start of the process, the Chiefs had hoped that Justin Blackmon would declare for the draft meaning that the Chiefs would potentially have a shot at either Blackmon or Julio Jones. Unfortunately both Blackmon and Michael Floyd elected to go back to school so there's not another first round calibre WR, so this position is better addressed later.

The Chiefs regret passing on B.J. Raji in 2009 to take Tyson Jackson. Not that Tyson Jackson has been a disappointment, but more that the defense really needs a nose tackle. So the Chiefs strongly consider Stephen Paea and Phil Taylor at this point. However, with Paea's questionable knee (and lack of ideal length) and Taylor's status as a career underachiever (and a fatass) the Chiefs decide to see if they can find value at another position.

But because they're somewhat surprised that he's on the board here, and because you don't build a great team drafting for need, the Chiefs elect to go BPA and select Gabe Carimi, OT Wisconsin. Carimi instantly has the potential to compete at four offensive line positions, and will assuredly be a starter at one of them. Best case scenario he displaces Albert at LT and Albert moves to his more natural position of LG (though he's been a fine tackle, so this isn't a priority). However, since you don't want Albert on the right side and Barry Richardson is an enigma who only occasionally seems like he would like to play football, Carimi is an instant plug and play at RT. He could also land inside at guard where Waters is declining, Lilja is average, and Asamoah is an unfinished product. The Chiefs could really use an OC, so Penn State's Stefen Wisniewski, but decide that Carimi offers better value here, as Wisniewski is not in the mold of a true first round center.

The Indianapolis Colts and 3irty1 are now on the clock.

nice pick

for weeks I've been saying Carmini either goes to Indy or the Eagles. Highly unlikely he gets to GB IMO

[Fred's Slacks]

I gotta say, this is pretty fun to watch.

I know. I think this is the highlight of this forum. Love this.

[swede]

I gotta say, this is pretty fun to watch.

Then you'll love watchingpaintdry.com

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfsi7jTadr1qgfxqno1_500.jpg

[Lurker64]

Hi Lurker64:

I can see why you overlooked Tyrone Smith of S. Cal at LT (maybe?) because he's coming off knee surgery but I'm wondering about your preference of Gabe Carmini over Nate Soldier of Colorado? Why did you go with Carmini? I ask that question acknowleging your strong knowledge of the draft and to see what I can learn from you .

Two reasons. The Chiefs don't really need a LT, they need offensive linemen. The biggest hole is at center, but the bigger holes are at RT and one of the guard spots. Secondly, the Chiefs want to (tautologically) play Chiefs football which involves running the football... a lot. Carimi's a better schematic fit since he's more of a mauler.

[woodbuck27]

Two reasons. The Chiefs don't really need a LT, they need offensive linemen. The biggest hole is at center, but the bigger holes are at RT and one of the guard spots. Secondly, the Chiefs want to (tautologically) play Chiefs football which involves running the football... a lot. Carimi's a better schematic fit since he's more of a mauler.

Thanks.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission - Julio Jones

13. Detroit Lions - Gave - Anthony Castonzo

14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky - Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1 - DE, JJ Watt

16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell - Ryan Kerrigan

17. New England Patriots - SavedByGrace - Justin Houston

18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace - Muhammed Wilkerson

19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig - OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA.

20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa.

21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64 - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1* - Tyron Smith, OT, USC

23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - LEWCWA
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[swede]

Says swede: Anybody coming late to the party is welcome to take on the Jets. If you don't, I'm way too likely to pick as if I were Rich Kotite.

[RashanGary]

I'm guessing Bretsky picks Mark Ingram.

[Bretsky]

I'm guessing Bretsky picks Mark Ingram.

nope.....going into the war room as the Chiefs and Colts took the two guys the Eagles really wanted. If I was the Saints I'd probably snatch up Ingram in a second though.

[mraynrand]

Says swede: Anybody coming late to the party is welcome to take on the Jets. If you don't, I'm way too likely to pick as if I were Rich Kotite.

I want to see that. Warren Sapp is laughing.