Packer Rats MOCK DRAFT

[Bretsky]

ah..........those rumors on Ingram's knee

Hoody put them out there to strike fear in GM's so he falls to 27

[Lurker64]

ah..........those rumors on Ingram's knee

Hoody put them out there to strike fear in GM's so he falls to 27

Well, maybe the thing about Ingram's knee is just so much draft noise intended to sandbag a team to pass on somebody. Consider, though, that teams have exhaustive medical reports on him that are not released to the media. Convincing somebody who has a detailed physical report on a player to believe in a phantom injury is probably difficult.

Or maybe it's a legitimate concern that finally got leaked to the press, who had no knowledge of it and would have no way of knowing about it without someone leaking some of the results from the combine physical.

We will never actually know, at least we won't know at any point until the draft, and probably not until afterwards.

All I know is that if Ingram does have a bad knee, I wouldn't want to take him at #32 (I'd put Mikel Leshoure over Mark Ingram with a bad knee). If his knee is fine, and he's there, it probably means we cut Grant but I'm okay with the pick.

[Bretsky]

I would suggest Christian Ballard over Corey Liuget, as a better fit for our defense at 5-tech (since we don't need another nose with Raji, Pickett, and Green on the roster). Ballard at 6'5" with slightly longer arms seems like a better schematic fit. Paea might also be left off since he's a nose in this defense, and we don't need another one.

I would leave Rudolph out, since we have enough TEs. It's the one position (other than quarterback and specialist) I absolutely couldn't see Thompson taking in the first.

Titus Young as a WR is worthy of consideration as well, since he's a better character guy than Baldwin and he has better hands than Hankerson.

I think we should throw in another OL as well, say Danny Watkins of Baylor.



I've heard that the medical on Ingram's knee is giving a number of NFL teams pause. Since we aren't doctors and don't have access to his medical reports, it's impossible to speculate on where he'd land and who would or wouldn't pass on him. But it does give a plausible reason both for him to fall to #32 and for Thompson to pick somebody else.

I'd agree on Titus Young; truth be told if TT picks any one of the players on our final poll we've done a pretty good job. Could replace Rudolph with Titus Young and get rid of the NT's lineman types. Remember I think we have Howard Green back as well. Getting him for nothing was a huge break last year.

Isn't Watkins suppose to be the top pure OG prospect who is pretty NFL Ready ? He'd projected as a high 2nd so I agree we might put him on the list.

The other cool part of this is we can take the final list and look up youtube highlights on them all

[Lurker64]

There are literally only two things wrong with Watkins as a prospect: He's 26 and he's only been playing football for three years. Other than that, absolutely everything about him is top notch. If he were 3 years younger and 2" taller, he'd be a top 10 pick as a LT. As it stands, he'd be a hell of a guard, maybe a right tackle (he played LT at Baylor.)

He's powerful, compact, fluid, has good balance and a good anchor. He has a quick, powerful punch and his pad level is good. Length isn't ideal and his hand placement needs work, but you can't be too picky at #32.

Plus Watkins is both a Hockey Player and a Firefighter. How often do you get the chance to draft one of those?

[packrulz]

Martez Wilson had a herniated disc in his neck, I really wouldn't want to gamble on him with a first round pick.

[packrulz]

I would suggest Christian Ballard over Corey Liuget, as a better fit for our defense at 5-tech (since we don't need another nose with Raji, Pickett, and Green on the roster). Ballard at 6'5" with slightly longer arms seems like a better schematic fit. Paea might also be left off since he's a nose in this defense, and we don't need another one.

I would leave Rudolph out, since we have enough TEs. It's the one position (other than quarterback and specialist) I absolutely couldn't see Thompson taking in the first.

Titus Young as a WR is worthy of consideration as well, since he's a better character guy than Baldwin and he has better hands than Hankerson.

I think we should throw in another OL as well, say Danny Watkins of Baylor.



I've heard that the medical on Ingram's knee is giving a number of NFL teams pause. Since we aren't doctors and don't have access to his medical reports, it's impossible to speculate on where he'd land and who would or wouldn't pass on him. But it does give a plausible reason both for him to fall to #32 and for Thompson to pick somebody else.

Considering his size, I would project Paea as a DE in our defense, a Jenkins like player, who could back up at NT if needed. I like Watkins and Wisnewski, another guy highly rated is C/OG Rodney Hudson, Florida State, since Colledge is probably gone, if they plug Lang in at LG he could battle it out with Wells for the starting center job. Honestly, I think all the remaining LB's are 2nd rounders, and would be a reach at 32.

[Lurker64]

Considering his size, I would project Paea as a DE in our defense, a Jenkins like player, who could back up at NT if needed.

Since Paea is both shorter than Raji and has shorter arms than Raji, I really don't think he can be considered as a DE in this defense. As we saw from comparing Raji's freshman and sophomore campaigns, he was really lost at the 5-technique position but thrived closer to the middle. Paea would be the same way. There aren't any 6'1 1/2" 5-techs in the league who have <33" arms.

I love Paea as a prospect, just not here.

[Guiness]

If the pic was accurate Ms Mazzin is hot in a bikini

Hey Mr Mailman........where art thou ?

NE has a pick between two no brainer guys that should have been long gone by now. This shit should almost be too easy for you.
Hoody would be celebrating if he gets to pick between these guys.

Now that it's over, just curious who you saw as the two players left on the board who were head and shoulders above the rest?

Ingram would be my one guess. Liuget another.


Watkins is the other talent, but being a guard, is on the outside looking in.

[Bretsky]

Now that it's over, just curious who you saw as the two players left on the board who were head and shoulders above the rest?

Ingram would be my one guess. Liuget another.


Watkins is the other talent, but being a guard, is on the outside looking in.

Ingram and Pouncey were the two I was referring to. I kind of feel like Watkins falls to top ten in round two due to age

[ND72]

I am busy for weeks with our girls state basketball run and imissed the rats draft? Damn it!

[RashanGary]

There are literally only two things wrong with Watkins as a prospect: He's 26 and he's only been playing football for three years. Other than that, absolutely everything about him is top notch. If he were 3 years younger and 2" taller, he'd be a top 10 pick as a LT. As it stands, he'd be a hell of a guard, maybe a right tackle (he played LT at Baylor.)

He's powerful, compact, fluid, has good balance and a good anchor. He has a quick, powerful punch and his pad level is good. Length isn't ideal and his hand placement needs work, but you can't be too picky at #32.

Plus Watkins is both a Hockey Player and a Firefighter. How often do you get the chance to draft one of those?

He's a guy, you take him and you really only get six good years out of him. That's a huge downside to a pick. But at #32, he's probably the safest bet to be a probowl player left in the draft and damn near a sure thing to be good.

For our team right now, with Bulaga showing excellent potential as a LT. . . . This guy might be a perfect fit as our RT. He could slide in, start from day one and complete the transition of Clifton/Tausher to Bulaga/Watkins.

I'd be OK with that pick. We'd have a better player than 15 or 20 players picking ahead of us.

[RashanGary]

Bulaga/Clifton
Colledge/Lang
Wells/McDonald
Sitton/Lang
Watkins/Newhouse

Colledge isn't ideal, but I'm pretty sure there are a lot of teams out there starting OL a lot worse than Colledge is right now. I feel more pressed to replenish the tackle position than I am to replace a so/so - decent LG.

[Guiness]

I doubt very much Colledge is back. He's shown just enough to have someone throw a decent, i.e. $2.5-3 million/year contract at him, and I don't think TT will match that.

If you thought Watkins would give you six good years, I think you do that in a heartbeat. Nothing is that sure at the end of the first.

[Guiness]

Ingram and Pouncey were the two I was referring to. I kind of feel like Watkins falls to top ten in round two due to age

Is Mike Pouncey every bit as good as his brother? I guess he certainly has the potential to be, so could go in the top 20.

[Bretsky]

Is Mike Pouncey every bit as good as his brother? I guess he certainly has the potential to be, so could go in the top 20.

No, I don't think he's as good of a prespect as his brother. His brother seems border elite NFL already.