hawk and bishop starters going into 2011

[gbgary]

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signal to barnett.

[packerbacker1234]

Signal to what, that you won t have a chance?

MM said if they had to play today, Hawk and Bishop are the starters because that is how they ended the year, so you keep the continuity. Yes, they are both penciled in heading into camp, but pencils have erasers. They are going to see how Barnett looks afte rthe wrist injury and then decide if they should shop him or let him compete for a starting spot and then shop him if he doesn't iwn it.

MM didn't seem completely sold on keeping Hawk as a 3 down player. Of course, capers is the man making the calls, but MM points out that between the 4 MLB's we have, they will settle who does what and in what role on the field (aka, practice).

Could barnett be shopped? Yes. Is this really a surprise or a signal to him? Nope. Just a pretty standard answer.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Yes, they are both penciled in heading into camp, but pencils have erasers.

Unless you have children, then none of the pencils have erasers.

[pbmax]

I dunno. If a guy is a clear cut favorite to retake the job, you normally hear about how injuries don't cause starters to lose their jobs, we look forward to him being healthy, we think he's going to be fine so no need to find a replacement, etc.

This sounds more like "he'll have a chance to earn playing time like anyone else" verbiage. For a seven year starter/vet, that is quite a change. McCarthy hasn't committed to anything yet, but its not exactly a hug and slap on the butt either.

[Deputy Nutz]

You simply don't re-up Hawk and Bishop to then have an open competition. Too much money for two spots in your defense. Hawk is going to make 11 million this year, Bishop 4 million, and Barnett 6 million dollars, not to mention Chillars 2 million. Unless someone moves to the outside Barnett will be competing for a starting spot on a different team. It doesn't take a rhode scholar to figure this out.

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[MJZiggy]

Unless you have children, then none of the pencils have erasers.

If you bite on the little metal piece, you can usually get just enough to correct a mistake or two...

[mraynrand]

If you bite on the little metal piece, you can usually get just enough to correct a mistake or two...

I tried that - I still have both kids.

[MJZiggy]

I tried that - I still have both kids.

I once saw a cartoon where the insurance adjuster asked the customers if they'd had any accidents. They replied "only two out of our three kids."

[Fritz]

I dunno. If a guy is a clear cut favorite to retake the job, you normally hear about how injuries don't cause starters to lose their jobs, we look forward to him being healthy, we think he's going to be fine so no need to find a replacement, etc.

This sounds more like "he'll have a chance to earn playing time like anyone else" verbiage. For a seven year starter/vet, that is quite a change. McCarthy hasn't committed to anything yet, but its not exactly a hug and slap on the butt either.

More like a pencil in the butt.

[swede]

More like a pencil in the butt.

Reminds me of the constipated mathematician that worked it out with a pencil.

[Fritz]

Reminds me of the constipated mathematician that worked it out with a pencil.

Did you hear about his colleague who worked it out with a graphing calculator?

[swede]

But it wreckt'um.

[MJZiggy]

But it wreckt'um.

For godssakes, just go to Starbucks and be done with it.

[swede]

I apologize. I have violated at least three times tonight the minimum standards for gross to funny ratio.

[packerbacker1234]

You simply don't re-up Hawk and Bishop to then have an open competition. Too much money for two spots in your defense. Hawk is going to make 11 million this year, Bishop 4 million, and Barnett 6 million dollars, not to mention Chillars 2 million. Unless someone moves to the outside Barnett will be competing for a starting spot on a different team. It doesn't take a rhode scholar to figure this out.

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Hawk's salary this year isn't 11 million. That was the entire point of cutting him and then signing a longer term contract. So we don't have to pay him 11 million and because he isn't actually worth that sort of money year to year. It's like 5 years and 35 million overall, so around Nick Barnett money.

Chillar was reupped last season and appeared to be taking over for hawk - then got hurt. Likewise Hawk and Bishop may enter as the starters, but things happen and if Barnett or Chillar prove to be better players than either one of those two, it wouldn't be shocking to see them leap frogged on the depth chart. I know contracts and money can say a lot, but they don't guarentee playtime. If anything I am happy ot have those two on the team long haul because while not great players, they are solid - and that's great to have. Be ncie to have a GREAT LB running the D in the middle, but we don't really have that. Not even Barnett is great, though most agreed he was better than Hawk pre-injuries. We'll see how it pans out.

FOr now, let sjust worry about actually having a season next year.