Adrian Peterson is an Idiot.

[Smeefers]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Adrian-Peterson-expresses-frustration-on-labor-i;_ylt=AlIhyaW3JZLaQOUPKzZQWk5DubYF?urn=nfl-wp206

So, Adrian Peterson said that players today are like "modern day slaves."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Adrian-Peterson-expresses-frustration-on-labor-i;_ylt=AlIhyaW3JZLaQOUPKzZQWk5DubYF?urn=nfl-wp206

Luckily Ryan Grant Disagrees.

I for one, think AP is a complete moron for even thinking about bringing race into it, let alone his debasing and trivializing actual slavery. I also think that kind of talk will quickly push many people over to the owner's side.

[Old School]

When the Queens get their new staium in LA they can call themselves ....uh ,uh, don't get ahead of me .... the Los Angeles Slaves.

Maybe A P stands for a Peabrain.

[rbaloha1]

Institutionalized racism is still prevails across the US with the NFL being no different. The owner's attitude significantly changed after losing the $4 billion slush fund. Before that is was -- "Yes Master."

[Smeefers]

There's an enormous, immense gap between "yes master" and "I'll pay you more than most people make in a lifetime per game you play and you can choose whether or not you want to play."

[mngolf19]

Dumbass comes in all shapes, sizes, colors, ages, regions.

[rbaloha1]

There's an enormous, immense gap between "yes master" and "I'll pay you more than most people make in a lifetime per game you play and you can choose whether or not you want to play."

When you have a unique skill set as opposed to the average Joe you are entitled to whatever the market decides.

[Smeefers]

When you have a unique skill set as opposed to the average Joe you are entitled to whatever the market decides.

Agreed....

[Lurker64]

Institutionalized racism is still prevails across the US with the NFL being no different.

Institutionalized racism exists, I agree.

The owner's attitude significantly changed after losing the $4 billion slush fund.

Potentially true, but they certainly act as though they didn't, so there's not necessarily evidence of this. At the very least, they want to present the impression that nothing has changed, since that maintains their leverage.

Before that is was -- "Yes Master."

The owners attitude before the lockout insurance case was "Yes Master"? What are they agreeing to? Who is their master?

[wist43]

There's an enormous, immense gap between "yes master" and "I'll pay you more than most people make in a lifetime per game you play and you can choose whether or not you want to play."

When you have a unique skill set as opposed to the average Joe you are entitled to whatever the market decides.

So the market decides, and the player decides to play, or not to play... how is that "yes master"???

Try working in manufacturing... people barely putting food on the table. I see it every day - when you see people struggling just to make ends meet, a statement like that from a multimillionaire really is ignorant and contemptable.

[rbaloha1]

Institutionalized racism exists, I agree.



Potentially true, but they certainly act as though they didn't, so there's not necessarily evidence of this. At the very least, they want to present the impression that nothing has changed, since that maintains their leverage.

Check-out the owners behavior before and after the lost $4 billion. Of course Puppet Goddell is going to say all the right things.



The owners attitude before the lockout insurance case was "Yes Master"? What are they agreeing to? Who is their master?

Its the players that answer to the owners. The owners wanted the players to accept their proposal (assuming they had the $4 billion) -- Yes Master or else we shall lock you out. But when they lost it -- lets keep negotiating.

[Fritz]

So the market decides, and the player decides to play, or not to play... how is that "yes master"???

Try working in manufacturing... people barely putting food on the table. I see it every day - when you see people struggling just to make ends meet, a statement like that from a multimillionaire really is ignorant and contemptable.

Because "the market" isn't deciding. If you want "the market" to decide, then you have to stop the owners from collaborating on salary limits and things of that nature. You can't have a salary cap if you want a free market. If there's a cap, it ain't free. If you really want "the market" to exist you've got to allow each owner to decide - independently - what he/she will or won't pay.

While I don't at all agree with AP's statement, his other comments suggest he's not necessarily an idiot. He made a foolish comment, but that doesn't mean he's an idiot.

[Lurker64]

Its the players that answer to the owners. The owners wanted the players to accept their proposal (assuming they had the $4 billion) -- Yes Master or else we shall lock you out. But when they lost it -- lets keep negotiating.

Ah, so you misspoke. The owners expectation of the players changed, not their attitude.

[wist43]

Because "the market" isn't deciding. If you want "the market" to decide, then you have to stop the owners from collaborating on salary limits and things of that nature. You can't have a salary cap if you want a free market. If there's a cap, it ain't free. If you really want "the market" to exist you've got to allow each owner to decide - independently - what he/she will or won't pay.

While I don't at all agree with AP's statement, his other comments suggest he's not necessarily an idiot. He made a foolish comment, but that doesn't mean he's an idiot.

I didn't say the NFL was market driven, rbaloha made a comment to that effect - the CBA effectively takes market forces out of it... but, for anyone making that kind of money to even make a "foolish comment" along those lines... well, forgive me, but that is ignorant.

[rbaloha1]

Ah, so you misspoke. The owners expectation of the players changed, not their attitude.

It does not matter. The owner's slave mentality slightly changed after the illegal $4 billion slush fund.

[mraynrand]

It does not matter. The owner's slave mentality slightly changed after the illegal $4 billion slush fund.

I see the slave argument has returned. The owner's mentality is no different than the players - they want to get the best deal for themselves that they can. Start with that premise and everything makes more sense. Or, continue with the slave mentality argument. I hear the owners are re-thinking the cheerleader situation along these lines as well...