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House Judiciary Committee may seek to overturn NFL’s antitrust exemption
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Agreed that picking a side is generally not the best way to go for congress. Although as the article points out, eliminating the anti-trust exemption is not really being on the players side, or the owners side. It just messes up football altogether. It's congress' way of saying "settle your dispute, or we'll really screw things up".2025 Ratpickers champion.
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Well said. Unfortunately the players are forced to use Congress. Its dicey if the anti exemption is changed or removed for both parties.Originally posted by Lurker64 View PostThough, Congress should, as a rule, avoid involving itself in labor fights regardless of their impact by picking a side. If anybody in a position of government actually wanted to force that a deal get done, forcing binding arbitration would be significantly more efficacious than "threatening one side until they capitulate."
Though to be honest, DeMaurice Smith did win election to the NFLPA head by touting his connections to Washington and his ability to convince politicians to step in on behalf of the union. Unfortunately for him, they were all Democrats and there was an election in 2010.
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What do the enumerated powers of "our" federal government have to do with right wing or left wing anything? Other than your uneducated attempt to avoid providing a base for your moronic position, I mean?Originally posted by MadScientist View PostKeep your right-wing idiocy to the FYI circle jerk where it belongs and where you can have your wet-dream of the morally and economically bankrupt federal dictatorship that republicans are striving for.
As for where it is in the constitution, how about:
The authority is there the key is to use such authority wisely.
LOL. There's nothing that interstate commerce and "the general welfare" clause can't solve these days for some folks. I suppose if you really believe that Congress forcing its way into a labor dispute in a professional sports league is somehow providing for the common defense and general welfare of the citizens of the United States of America, then you're not going to understand any argument that is any more nuanced than, "you are an idiot."
But I mean that with all due respect someone who believes that our federal government has been granted unlimited authority to do whatever it wants by our Constitution, as long as someone can somehow claim it's in the name of our general welfare and hypothetically has something to do with more than one state."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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I'd love see us all in a country where all labor laws were gone just for the sake of showing those who insist on their conservative interpretation of the constitution. Sorry bud, the nature of capitalism is the fit survive and those willing to be cut throat would have all of the advantage in a lawless business world. I'll stick with the liberal way we read our good ol' constitution, thank you.Originally posted by SkinBasket View PostWhat do the enumerated powers of "our" federal government have to do with right wing or left wing anything? Other than your uneducated attempt to avoid providing a base for your moronic position, I mean?
LOL. There's nothing that interstate commerce and "the general welfare" clause can't solve these days for some folks. I suppose if you really believe that Congress forcing its way into a labor dispute in a professional sports league is somehow providing for the common defense and general welfare of the citizens of the United States of America, then you're not going to understand any argument that is any more nuanced than, "you are an idiot."
But I mean that with all due respect someone who believes that our federal government has been granted unlimited authority to do whatever it wants by our Constitution, as long as someone can somehow claim it's in the name of our general welfare and hypothetically has something to do with more than one state.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Who said that labor laws should be gone? Skin was just pointing out that allowing "general welfare" and "interstate commerce" to allow the federal government to do anything they want to is directly contrary to the intent of the framer's of the constitution, and additionally a clear path to tyranny. There are some things that the federal government should not get involved in. The current NFL-NFLPA spat is one of them.Originally posted by JustinHarrell View PostI'd love see us all in a country where all labor laws were gone just for the sake of showing those who insist on their conservative interpretation of the constitution. Sorry bud, the nature of capitalism is the fit survive and those willing to be cut throat would have all of the advantage in a lawless business world. I'll stick with the liberal way we read our good ol' constitution, thank you.</delurk>
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I'd love it to be straight conservative for 20 years. I think our country would fall apart. Take away minimum wage. Whatever you're worth you'll make. Take away overtime laws, break laws, family medical leave. Take the government straight out of the equation. This big government we all hate so much, I have a feeling we'd get a new appreciation. Over time, as the poor class grew, there would be less and less need for the dwindling middle class. Eventually the haves would be borrowing to the have nots with a snowball effect exactly like the great depression eventually happening again.Last edited by RashanGary; 03-17-2011, 09:50 PM.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Like Greece?[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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This form of trolling is appropriate in FYI but not here. If you want to make an argument as to why the federal government should be involved in the NFL-NFLPA labor spat (beyond the current role of the judiciary) by all means do so. If you want to rail on people who disagree with you politically, please do so elsewhere.Originally posted by JustinHarrell View PostI'd love it to be straight conservative for 20 years. I think our country would fall apart. Take away minimum wage. Whatever you're worth you'll make. Take away overtime laws, break laws, family medical leave. Take the government straight out of the equation. This big government we all hate so much, I have a feeling we'd get a new appreciation. Over time, as the poor class grew, there would be less and less need for the dwindling middle class. Eventually the haves would be borrowing to the have nots with a snowball effect exactly like the great depression eventually happening again.</delurk>
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I went off the top 10 according to this siteOriginally posted by Tarlam! View PostYou've obviously never been o Singapore.
Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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