Kolb vs. Flynn

[woodbuck27]

Eagles would accept 2012 picks for Kolb

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b8CDA

So the only way the Eagles could get picks in this year’s draft in exchange for Kolb is if the labor impasse is resolved in the next five weeks – by April 28, when the draft is scheduled to begin. The draft is currently scheduled to be held whether or not there’s a new CBA by late April.

Assuming the labor impasse is resolved after the draft next month but before the opening of the regular season in mid-September, the Eagles would have nearly five months to trade Kolb for picks in next year’s draft before opening day

GO PACKERS!

[mraynrand]

In his pocket?

That's a Wocket, you pervert!

[Bretsky]

Only in a Packer forum would the votes fall this way. Kolb has had more good games than bad, he looks to be a starting option. Flynn is a good backup for sure, but he's still largely unknown.

DITTO

I think votes would be 9=1 of not a Packer forum
I'm not sure Kolb is the real deal but he has a cannon KYP
He was also thought of as a much better prospect coming out of college and has shown nice potential so far

[wootah]

DITTO

I think votes would be 9=1 of not a Packer forum
I'm not sure Kolb is the real deal but he has a cannon KYP
He was also thought of as a much better prospect coming out of college and has shown nice potential so far

Brohm was also considered a better prospect than Flynn coming out and look where he's at now. I'm not saying Flynn is better, but he is surely less of a big name than Kolb and that would influence voters who don't know Flynn. Kolb got into the spotlight immediately as a 2nd round pick, sparking a discussion on the departure of McNabb in Philly. Since that, every offseason he was in the discussion whether he should start or not.

We as Packer fans are more informed of Flynn's play in practice and in limited playing time and by all accounts it has been very good. I really don't care much about the cannon of an arm argument. Kyle Boller, Jamarcus Russell, Rex Grossman had one too. For a QB, a good head is more important and Flynn seems to have a pretty good one there.

[packerbacker1234]

Brohm was also considered a better prospect than Flynn coming out and look where he's at now. I'm not saying Flynn is better, but he is surely less of a big name than Kolb and that would influence voters who don't know Flynn. Kolb got into the spotlight immediately as a 2nd round pick, sparking a discussion on the departure of McNabb in Philly. Since that, every offseason he was in the discussion whether he should start or not.

We as Packer fans are more informed of Flynn's play in practice and in limited playing time and by all accounts it has been very good. I really don't care much about the cannon of an arm argument. Kyle Boller, Jamarcus Russell, Rex Grossman had one too. For a QB, a good head is more important and Flynn seems to have a pretty good one there.

Kolb also has more NFL game experience than Flynn, who has 1 and a half games worth. Kolb came in for injured Mcnabb 2 seasons ago and lit the field on fire with his numbers. Last year he had some decent showings as well as some rough ones (first game against packers, etc).

However, we've seen Kolb perform in real live NFL action far more than we have seen Flynn, and we've seen Kolb play well in more than just one game. That gives him a much higher stock. If flynn walks in and has to play two full games next season and performs like he did against NE except gets a couple w's, then his value truly sky rockets. Until then he is just a guy, who to many onlookers, played well in a solitary game but got confused in the 2 minute drill (we know it's due to lack of practice, but do they?)

We like flynn more because, frankly, we have a stud QB and we don't need another up an dcoming "starter" to be behind him - we need a capable QB who gives us chances to win in individual games when called upon. We don't need a guy that could start all 16/18 games. Kolb is just more proven than Flynn, and already has a MUCH better arm.

That said, Flynn has proven that a lot of teams simply overlooked him, giving full credit to how talented LSU was as the reason they went all the way instead of giving him any credit for it. If anything, how good LSU was overall is why RUSSEL got to where he did, and how good LSU was under Flynn is a product of his gamer style of offense fitting well in a talented group. The fact flynn's stock has raised up to at least a 2nd or 3rd rounder at this point just shows how much of a steal we got. Regardless of his starting potential, we all know he is a very capable backup in our system. After the NE game he put doubters to rest on if he can step in.

Now that Rodgers going out is something to consider more seriously in the regular season, Flynn should see an increase in practice reps with the ones just so he is actually prepared to come into games instead of running pure scout team all week. As was shown, he needs the practice to perform, so I am sure he'll get maybe 1/5th or 1/4th of the practice reps just to keep him fresh on the gameplan and to make sure he has some minor work with the 1's on the off chance he has to step in like he did against detroit. From what I heard, after Rodgers came back Flynn saw an increase in practice reps over what he had previously been recieving, and I expect that to continue so long as Rodgers is a concussion risk.

[wootah]

Kolb also has more NFL game experience than Flynn, who has 1 and a half games worth. Kolb came in for injured Mcnabb 2 seasons ago and lit the field on fire with his numbers.

Are you talking about his one game against the Chiefs (who finished 4-12 that season)? Details on the regular season games in which Kolb had at least 15 attempts:
2007: 0
2008: 1 (Passer rating of 15.3)
2009: 2 (Passer ratings of 73.2 & 120.6)
2010: 5 (Passer ratings of 76.0, 103.3, 133.6, 56.9 & 37.0)

Some good ones, and just as many very average ones as well. Yes he has played more than Flynn, but I'm not overly impressed by it. One could say that Flynn is more unproven while Kolb has not convinced when he had the chance. Again, I'm not saying Flynn is better/worse, I just think the general public values Kolb higher simply because of the higher draft slot & bigger name.

[sharpe1027]

I don't think either of them has shown that they are special or have played enough to make more than a (uneducated) guess. If I had to guess, I'd say Kolb will end up doing more in his career, but in the end neither will be considered successful as true starters.

[vince]

It all depends what their respective surrounding casts looks like. Either one could be successful with a strong line and receivers. Both would fall on their face if they lack either.

I do think Kolb is a bit overrated though. He has the tangibles but appears fragile to me. Flynn has the intangibles and the hotter girlfiiend.

[KYPack]

DITTO

I think votes would be 9=1 of not a Packer forum
I'm not sure Kolb is the real deal but he has a cannon KYP
He was also thought of as a much better prospect coming out of college and has shown nice potential so far

OK, I'll take everybodies word for it. Kolb seems to get a lot of hype when he was behind Mcnabb. I could never really understand why. I've yet to see the guy do much.

Guess I'll roll with the hot girl friend theory.

[woodbuck27]

OK, I'll take everybodies word for it. Kolb seems to get a lot of hype when he was behind Mcnabb. I could never really understand why. I've yet to see the guy do much.

Guess I'll roll with the hot girl friend theory.

I believe that if he's healthy and given the chance he can certainly lead an NFL team so prepared, to wins. Kolb has proven that he deserves a real opportunity to start for some NFL team.

Who's the better QB Flynn or Kolb? We need to see more fr. these two QB's to analyze that question. At this point it might seem that Kolb has the edge.

PACKERS!

[get louder at lambeau]

OK, I'll take everybodies word for it. Kolb seems to get a lot of hype when he was behind Mcnabb. I could never really understand why. I've yet to see the guy do much.

Guess I'll roll with the hot girl friend theory.

Even Rex Grossman got some love this year as McNabb's backup. Maybe it's McNabb.

[King Friday]

I voted not enough info on both to make a decision. Flynn hasn't seen the field much. I've seen enough of Kolb to say he'd make a capable starter...but that's not exactly saying much.