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I figured you were screwing around or were loaded, Tar.
I looked around on the net. Rugby around the world has concussion issues. All the people that study this are trying to figure out how to handle the problem.
- It's worse than people thought.
- Mandatory "sitting out" periods may make the problem worse as players will mask their symptoms to avoid losing playing time.
- soft helmets used by Rugby league players don't seem to be effective.
- We are basically still in the dark ages.
- the data is the same in Lithuania as it is in Australia. Any time you got 30 crazy mfers running into one another, people get knocked the fuck out.
http://http://theconcussionblog.com/...rugby-article/
Hope the linky works
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You've got an extra http in there KY.
It's amazing to think what we'll know about concussions in 15 years considering what we've learned in the last 15.
I hope many more ex-players donate their brains to be studied postmortem. That's the greatest gift they can give to advancing the understanding of concussions.
And, TH - What's a couple .000%?"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
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Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Postsorry Tarlam, Americans do something better than any other country in the world and that is playing football. Your best Aussie Rules players couldn't beat a division III football team. Toughness has nothing to do with it. Back in the day when boys were still boys and video games sucked balls, we all grew up playing backyard tackle football without pads and that is how we learned the game. It was passed down from older neighborhood kids to the younger ones. We would break noses, arms, teeth and it was all part of the experience. If you cried you got made fun of regardless how bad the injury, you got laughed off the field if you even thought about wearing a mouth guard. That was how the game used to be played. Then we put pads on and forgot how pure the game was when we were kids.
I was an offensive and defensive linemen in college, and only someone with no experience would think blocking and defeating blocks is easy, it is the hardest part of the game, ask any football coach worth a shit and he builds his team from linemen up. Last time I checked Australia wasn't a hot bed for recuiting linemen. Offensive and defensive linemen are some of the most athletic guys on the field considering their size and weight, I would take Micheal Orr one on one with any Aussie Rules player and 95 time out of a 100 that Rugger is pancaked flat on his ass, damaged, mauled, crushed. 6-8 345 pounds and quicker than shit. Does Aussie Rules have anyone playing like that?
The state of Utah is producing a quite a few Samoan and Tongan NFL linemen. But they grow up playing football here.
This is just an anecdotal observation, but if Aussies were able to make it in the NFL, they'd be over here in droves earning the big bucks.
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I certainly didn't say that we would play their game. Tarlam said that Aussie Rules players would come over here and whip our asses at football, the American kind. My point with Orr is that there is nobody his size or his ability that plays Aussie that could come here and dominate.Originally posted by Guiness View PostNope, and for good reason - you having played both sports should know better than anyone.
6-8 345 would not be a useful Aussie rules or rugby player. Sure, he'd flatten anyone who got near him...so they'd run away from him 15 minutes into the game, his tongue would be hanging to his knees, and they'd be administering him oxygen!
The sports, while similar, are different enough that different body styles and conditioning excel at each one. Can you imagine the sight of a rugby player getting oxygen on the sideline? Yet it's a common occurrence in American football.
I was never a big offensive or defensive linemen, I played at 225, and I about passed out playing Rugby, what a stupid game.
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Exactly, and I was agreeing with you - just pointing out how different the games are, that at the top level, players are not interchangeable. Even a game like the CFL is different, a lot of NFL players that come up here and play are too 'muscle-bound' for the more wide open Canadian game. RB's and WR's who show up looking like that are said to be in 'NFL shape'.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostI certainly didn't say that we would play their game. Tarlam said that Aussie Rules players would come over here and whip our asses at football, the American kind. My point with Orr is that there is nobody his size or his ability that plays Aussie that could come here and dominate.
I was never a big offensive or defensive linemen, I played at 225, and I about passed out playing Rugby, what a stupid game.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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