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  • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
    Where those the same people who thought Brady Quinn and Matt Leinart where going to be stars? LOL
    2006 was a tough year to be taking a QB.

    VY, Leinart and Cutler in the first round. Cutler the most accomplished of the bunch, having been a starter on a playoff team (not exactly a high water mark).

    After that, it's looking like the #2 QB out of that draft was Bruce Gradkowski!
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    • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
      Who said it was racist? Huh? Both are horrible comparsions which are based off skin color by fans who dont actually watch games and base their opinion from watching sportscenter highlights.
      Warren Moon did. Are you paying attention? It seems like you're defending his position.
      Originally posted by 3irty1
      This is museum quality stupidity.

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      • Originally posted by SkinBasket View Post
        No, you idiot. It's prejudiced based on skin color. Which is entirely different than racism. Entirely. Only some bumbling white cornhole like you could be so clueless about it all... probably because you'll never know what it's like to live in a black man's skin. I say probably, because you act a little strange sometimes and there are some large black folk out there you could easily fit into. Cam Newton will probably be one of them in about 5 years...

        Look at the tongue on that guy. I'd like to crawl all up in his business.
        Originally posted by 3irty1
        This is museum quality stupidity.

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        • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
          I dont know about scouts but a few people on this board have already compared him to J Russell even though their games are nothing alike. I think he'll be similar to VY without being a headcase. Won't have pretty stats but he's going to win you some football games.
          If you haven't noticed, Jamarcus Russell has taken over Ryan Leaf's old position as biggest QB draft bust ever. They are talking about potential bust level, not skin color or playing style. At least that's how I read it.

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          • There is a lot to like about Cam Newton's physical size and arm. There are some concerns about his accuracy and the ability to make all of the NFL throws from what I've heard. I suspect the interview portion of the combine will help some GMs discern whether or not he has the head to make it as an NFL quarterback. I think how you really feel about him--as a Packer fan--can be discovered by deciding whether or you want him to end up in the NFC North. If you are confident he'll be a bust than let him play for Minnesota.
            Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
            I dont know about scouts but a few people on this board have already compared him to J Russell even though their games are nothing alike. I think he'll be similar to VY without being a headcase. Won't have pretty stats but he's going to win you some football games.
            [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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            • Originally posted by swede View Post
              I think how you really feel about him--as a Packer fan--can be discovered by deciding whether or you want him to end up in the NFC North. If you are confident he'll be a bust than let him play for Minnesota.
              I'm far from an expert on Newton, but I have a feeling he might be a little bit dumb. Not from his skin color, Brandon, but by the spazzy-puppy look on his face. Same kind of look as Jarrett Bush has.

              I wouldn't lose much sleep if he went to Minnesota. I doubt he's the next Peyton Manning, and even if he ends up being a good one, it will probably take a few years. In the mean time, he'd be thrown into the fire of a desperate franchise with no QB, behind a questionable OL, in a division full of elite pass rushers. I could see the Packers' INT stats going up from playing Cam Newton twice a year this year and next.

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              • Originally posted by get louder at lambeau View Post
                I'm far from an expert on Newton, but I have a feeling he might be a little bit dumb. Not from his skin color, Brandon, but by the spazzy-puppy look on his face. Same kind of look as Jarrett Bush has.

                I wouldn't lose much sleep if he went to Minnesota. I doubt he's the next Peyton Manning, and even if he ends up being a good one, it will probably take a few years. In the mean time, he'd be thrown into the fire of a desperate franchise with no QB, behind a questionable OL, in a division full of elite pass rushers. I could see the Packers' INT stats going up from playing Cam Newton twice a year this year and next.
                Haha so you can now tell how smart someone is by looking at their face huh?

                "Cam Newton may not be a genius, but he is certainly smart enough to play in the NFL.

                The Auburn quarterback scored a 21 on his Wonderlic Test at last month’s NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis according to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen.

                Newton is among the candidates to be No. 1 overall pick at this year’s draft. And while his score is slightly below the historical average for quarterbacks (24), it’s not going to be enough to scare off a team from drafting him.

                Other notable Wonderlic Test scores from this year’s quarterback crop: Jake Locker – 20, Ryan Mallett – 26, Andy Dalton – 29, Ricky Stanzi – 30, Christian Ponder – 35, Blaine Gabbert – 42 and Greg McElroy – 43.

                Notable historic Wonderlic Test scores: Dan Marino and Jim Kelly – 15, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees – 28 and John Elway – 29."

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                • Originally posted by get louder at lambeau View Post
                  If you haven't noticed, Jamarcus Russell has taken over Ryan Leaf's old position as biggest QB draft bust ever. They are talking about potential bust level, not skin color or playing style. At least that's how I read it.
                  Yea I've noticed that Russell sucks. Unlike Russell Cam has an excellent work ethic and comes from a football family. If not for the scandal with his dad taking money which happens ALL THE TIME no one would be questioning if he'll be bust. Even if this dude fails at QB he could play TE in NFL, that's how physically gifted this guy is. Same can't be said about Russell, all he had was a big arm.
                  Last edited by Brandon494; 04-07-2011, 07:18 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Zool View Post
                    Is the entire situation really any different than people comparing Jimmer Fredette to JJ Redick? Is that racist too?
                    Exactly! Those sons a bitches. Why couldn't they have compared Jimmer Fredette to Derek Fisher or another black guard? Racist ass holes. Where you at Warren Moon? Jesse Jackson?

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                    • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                      Haha so you can now tell how smart someone is by looking at their face huh?
                      You can't tell anything about people from a first impression? That sucks for you. I can. My first impressions of people are usually pretty good. Look at them, hear them talk, form a basic opinion. It's not exactly Miss Cleo stuff, and I have pretty good luck with it.

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                      • Originally posted by Brando19 View Post
                        Exactly! Those sons a bitches. Why couldn't they have compared Jimmer Fredette to Derek Fisher or another black guard? Racist ass holes. Where you at Warren Moon? Jesse Jackson?
                        Haha you just don't get it but the again you are from WV

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                        • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                          Yea I've noticed that Russell sucks. Unlike Russell Cam has an excellent work ethic and comes from a football family. If not for the scandal with his dad taking money which happens ALL THE TIME no one would be questioning if he'll be bust. Even if this dude fails at QB he could play TE in NFL, that's how physically gifted this guy is. Same can't be said about Russell, all he had was a big arm.
                          Yeah, uh, I think you totally missed my point, Brandon. As I already said, I think they were trying to illustrate how big of a bust they thought Newton would be with the Russell mention. He's the poster boy of busts, so that's why he's used, not because of specific similarities between the two players.

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                          • Cam Newton will be out of football in three years five at the outside.
                            Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                            • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                              Haha you just don't get it but the again you are from WV
                              Ok...and you are from VA? Honestly...you don't get it. I guess blacks will play the race card until the end of time and other blacks will defend it.

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                              • Originally posted by Brando19 View Post
                                Exactly! Those sons a bitches. Why couldn't they have compared Jimmer Fredette to Derek Fisher or another black guard? Racist ass holes. Where you at Warren Moon? Jesse Jackson?
                                Brandon494...this was sarcasm by the way.

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