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Damn, thought for sure he was going to the Vikings
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Well he will be an asset for 12 games for the Bears...Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.Comment
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On the field. But even off of it, he knows Dom's defense, he knows how his position coach teaches and worse, he knows what he teaches! He also has ample ammo on how to beat the Packer's OL. Am I the only one who wants him out of the conference?Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
Message to Cullen: Think Kampman!!!Comment
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I don't think you need to worry Tarlam, Dom Capers is a lot smarter than Cullen Jenkins.</delurk>Comment
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Bid that price way up before letting him go.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.Comment
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Do you actually think there are any "secrets" about the past? Capers has been around the league, coaches who coached under him are scattered around the league, and players who played for him are scattered around the league as players yet or now as coaches. With all of the film available and coaches to study it, nothing that has been done in the past from a coaching or strategy perspective is a secret.Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
That's why coaches continually try to revise and change, why they try to respond differently than they have in the past to similar situations, because that is the only way to surprise an opponent; by doing differently this year than you did last year.Comment
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He's a good hand in a 3-4 or a 4-3. Can play both end and DT in a 4-3 and end in a 3-4. He wouldn't be the first guy to parlay SB free agency into a fat contract. Most teams know he's older, but Cullen is a better player than most teams have on the DL in those spots.
Funny Tar mentioned Kamp. Like Aaron, I wouldn't begrudge Jenk getting a good contract. There outta be 4-5 teams sniffing around, looking to sign him.Comment
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For as good of a player as he has been, Jenkins has never had a super pay day. At his age, and with a bit of an injury history, this is likely his last chance for a big payday. I expect he will go where the guaranteed money is the best even if it ends up a shorter deal with a lower total value.Comment
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He got a pretty nice pay day on his last contract--for the pay that was being doled out then. $15-16M for 4 years was pretty good money four years ago. A lot of people felt Green Bay overpaid for him. Now, $4M/year is a bargain.Originally posted by Patler View Post"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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I don't agree. Free agent and proven DEs were getting big bonuses by then already. Freeney got a $15 million signing bonus, Adams got $13M, Abraham, Kearse and Grant got $12M, Geathers $11M, White, Ogunleye and Kearney got $10M. Jenkins got $4 million. In 2007 he was #17 on the list for DEs salary and 38th for cap value, In 2008 he was #52 for DE salary and 34th for cap value. In 2009 he was #39 for salary and 38th in cap value.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
On the 2007 list of DE salaries, 31 had higher bonuses than Jenkins $4 million.
What enticed Jenkins at the time was that he was still a restricted free agent, with only 3 years in the league. The Packers could have kept him very cheaply for another year for him to prove that the end of 2006 wasn't a flash in the pan. I think that is why some felt the Packers paid too much, not because it was a lot for a good DE. No one was sure about Jenkins yet, and the Packers didn't have to pay that to keep him.
The three years before that contract, he was a minimum wage player. Basically, he got about $17 M for his 7 years in Green Bay.Last edited by Patler; 04-06-2011, 07:37 PM.Comment
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That was my first thought as well. 6-8 games maybe. 10-12 with some sort of cast and/or brace.Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post"You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - PartialComment
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Draft status seems to stick with most guys their whole career."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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$15M for 4 years was good money back then. I don't care about cap value or signing bonus. He signed a contract that made it likely that he'd see all of the money because there were no tricks to it. He saw all of that $15M. That was good money. 17th highest paid DE is about what he should have made. He's not an elite DE. He'll probably sign a new contract that pays him in a similar range as that contract this time. The only difference is that salaries have gone up. Pickett got a solid contract in 2006, and he only got 4yr, $14M. Last year, Pickett signed a contract for 4yr, $24M. And he's older and not the player he was 5 years ago. Shows you how much contracts have gone up. It seems like a $4M/year contract from 4 years ago is similar to A.J. Hawk's contract and better than Desmond Bishop's contract in today's dollars.Originally posted by Patler View Post
I'm not saying he got elite money, but it's not like he hasn't gotten paid.Last edited by HarveyWallbangers; 04-06-2011, 10:33 PM."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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