2011 PackerRats community mock second draft

[Bretsky]

Well, I picked for the Giants in the other draft so I'll do it here too.

The Giants take T Anthony Castanzo, Boston College

The G-Men need help on the OL as they have far too many question marks there and cannot have the strategy to hope those guys improve. He's the top T on the board and will help keep the whining pussy Eli Manning upright and continue to show why he's overrated.

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Solid pick; if I was picking for the Giants I'd have went threre too
I was even debating grabbing him for SD since he's the BPA but those Chargers need pass rushers so bad I focused on the defense

[Fred's Slacks]

I'll try to get this rolling again:

With the 20th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Justin Houston DE Georgia.

I'll admit, I haven't followed nearly as close this year as normal, but I think this is a decent fit for the Bucs.

[RashanGary]

I'll try to get this rolling again:

With the 20th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Justin Houston DE Georgia.

I'll admit, I haven't followed nearly as close this year as normal, but I think this is a decent fit for the Bucs.

I think this is a great pick. Houston was very productive and he has top tier pass rushing athletic ability. He's more of a specialist, but if he gets 8-10 sacks per year, I think you feel pretty good about your #20 pick.

[Bretsky]

Kansas City Chiefs: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor
Scott Pioli needs his Vince Wilfork. The Chiefs struggled against the run late in the year because they had nothing at the nose tackle position. Phil Taylor would remedy that issue.

After a strong showing at the Senior Bowl, Taylor continued to impress at the Combine and his Pro Day. He lost some more weight (334) and despite his massive frame, he ran a 5.18. Taylor has completely turned his life around, so despite his altercations three years ago at Penn State. Pioli has met with Taylor multiple times in the past month.

[Bretsky]

Only 10 more picks to GB
Make it a good Sunday

[Lurker64]

The Indianapolis Colts select Nate Solder, OT, Colorado. Bill Polian admitted that he made a mistake last year in drafting Jerry Hughes over Roger Saffold, as the Colts inability to block for Peyton Manning has been one of their major weaknesses these last few years. Solder has the tools to be an amazing prospect on the left side, as he has the feet of a linebacker and "footwork" is ultimately what separates the great OTs from the mediocre ones. He lacks ideal NFL strength, but the Colts hardly need pancake blocks from their bookends as Peyton Manning's precison passing attack is ultimately what drives the offense.

(Considered Gabe Carimi here, but then I remembered Polian was quoted last year as saying he didn't think Bryan Bulaga could play on the left side in the NFL... so if he doesn't think Bulaga is an NFL LT, he definitely wouldn't think that Carimi is an NFL LT as Bulaga actually has better footwork and better pad-level than Carimi showed at Wisconsin).

[Lurker64]

Panthers: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama (Lurker64)
Broncos: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn (JustinHarrell)
Bills: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn (Smeefers)
Bengals: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri (Guiness)
Cardinals: Von Miller, LB, Texas A&M (Deputy Nutz)
Browns: Julio Jones, WR, Alabama (Freak Out)
49ers: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU (3irty1)
Titans: J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin (Smeefers)
Cowboys: Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, North Carolina (packrulz)
Redskins: A.J. Green, WR, Georgia (JustinHarrell)
Texans: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska (Lurker64)
Vikings: Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue (TennesseePackerBacker)
Lions: Tyron Smith, OT, USC (get louder at lambeau)
Rams: Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri (PackerPro42)
Dolphins: Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama (Deputy Nutz)
Jaguars: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson (Bretsky)
Patriots: Cameron Jordan, DE, California (Lurker64)
Chargers: Muhammed Wilkerson, DE, Temple (Bretsky)
Giants: Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College (Cheesehead Craig)
Bucs: Justin Houston, DE, Georgia (Fred's Slacks)
Chiefs: Phil Daylor, NT, Baylor (Bretsky)
Colts: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado (Lurker64)

Eagles are on the clock, Saints are on deck.

[Guiness]

You have to think after the way we beat the Eagles this year, they're looking for secondary help. But I don't know if there's anyone worth taking here.

However, they also have a pressing need on the OL. More at tackle, but Pouncey still on the board is too much to pass up.

The Eagles select Mike Pouncey, G, Florida.

[Tarlam!]

The Saints are looking down the gun barrell of a potential nightmare with 26 players becoming free agents under the old CBA rules once the lockout is over. How do teams get themselves in a position like that? And another thing, Reggie Bush is slated to make 11.8 million dollars next season! Aint no way he's on the roster with that number.

I think if Ingram makes it past Miami on draft day, this is where he goes, but in our Mock he didn't! The draftniks have identified DE, OLB & DB as the most pressing needs of this ball club. Still, it's an open secret that they usually pick BPA and with 26/27 potential question marks, I believe that is the strategy they take. The only position they won't be interested in is QB. Mike Mayock's draft board has one DT that would be value at this spot:

Corey Liuget*, DT, Illinois
He is much better on tape than I initially expected. There's no bad tape on him. You can put him in the middle of a 4-3 front. He's disruptive, quick and tough. Some of the 3-4 teams like him enough to look at him as a five-technique, which I don't think is his best position. He's steadily climbing up boards.

The guy he has at #24 is also a DT:

Marvin Austin*, DT, North Carolina
From the time he started his season at the East-West Shrine Game, he's done a great job of rehabbing his image. He was the best player on the field in that game and had great numbers at the combine. You could see the power, explosion and great feet at his pro day. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't go somewhere between 20-32. I really believe he's too good of a football player to fall out of the first round.

But, I don't believe they will go DT and DE/OLB value isn't here the way the draft stands. Astonishingly, Mayock's board reveals a guy he values 11th overall:

Anthony Castonzo, OL, Boston College
I really believe he or (Tyron) Smith are the first tackle off the board. Castonzo is a tough guy in the run game. He has great feet as a former tight end. I love his upside, and he had a great week of Senior Bowl practice, although he didn't play quite as well in the game.

Interesting that in our mock, he's still available at 24th. With only one OT (Jon Stinchcomb) secure this season and Sean Payton's love of running the football they go this route. The Saints also protect their franchise QB and there can be no questioning the value..

With the 24th Pick of the 2011 PR Mock Draft v. 2 the Saints select Tony Castonzo.

Honourable mention:

Akeem Ayers*, OLB, UCLA
On tape, he's a natural edge pass rusher. He didn't perform well at the combine; ran in the 4.9 range in the 40. There are also questions about whether he can handle a complicated defense, both with his hand down or standing up. But he is a great athlete and a natural 3-4 outside linebacker.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=69290&draftyear=2011&genpos=OT

[Lurker64]

Hey Tarlam!: "Giants: Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College (Cheesehead Craig)"

He went a few picks ago, try again.

(Don't feel bad, this is inevitable in anything like this).

Nobody pick for Seattle until we figure out who the Saints actually pick.

[Tarlam!]

Hey Tarlam!: "Giants: Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College (Cheesehead Craig)"

He went a few picks ago, try again.

(Don't feel bad, this is inevitable in anything like this).

Damn! I even did a search on the page! And still missed it!!

[Tarlam!]

OK, looking at the board, the next OT is a bit of a reach.at #24. So I'll change direction and pick defense, though I think the remaining DEs are also a reach. I thought hard about this guy:

Jimmy Smith*, DB, Colorado
He's a freakish athlete with significant off-the-field concerns. But there's a huge drop-off at cornerback after Peterson, Amukamara and Smith. He's long and physical, but he's too inconsistent, which is the reason he isn't higher up on the board.

I'm not sure what his off field concerns are, but I New Orleans is not a good place for doubtful character. So, I settled for this guy:

Akeem Ayers*, OLB, UCLA
On tape, he's a natural edge pass rusher. He didn't perform well at the combine; ran in the 4.9 range in the 40. There are also questions about whether he can handle a complicated defense, both with his hand down or standing up. But he is a great athlete and a natural 3-4 outside linebacker.

[packrulz]

In the previous mock, I selected QB Jake Locker for the Seahawks, however, they may be able to draft him or another decent QB in the 2nd round.

Through the first part of the 2010 season, solid defensive line play had been a strength for the Seahawks.

Seattle ranked second overall in rushing defense through six games, giving up just over 76 yards a contest. But when defensive end Red Bryant and defensive tackle Colin Cole went down with injuries against Oakland in Week 8, the Seahawks failed to recover up front and the defense suffered. The Seahawks allowed 239 rushing yards in a 33-3 humbling at the hands of the Raiders, and an average of 144 yards a contest the rest of the season, finishing 3-7 down the stretch.

Bryant suffered a torn MCL in his right knee that required surgery, landing on injured reserve. And Cole missed five games with a severe high ankle sprain. Add to that the four games starting defensive tackle Brandon Mebane missed because of an injured calf, and it's clear why the Seahawks could be looking for defensive line help early in the draft.
They also need offensive line help, Gabe Carimi, OT, WI, is obviously very tempting, but a player like Liuget doesn't drop to them very often, and a GM like John Schneider is going to take him.
Seahawks select:
Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois: He has an explosive burst, good flexibility and the upper-body strength to compete immediately. Liuget is a classic three-technique defensive tackle who is earning grades closer to Dareus and Fairley from some teams than many realize.

[get louder at lambeau]

Hey Lurker- Any chance you could put the pick number in front of the team in your summaries? I keep counting through the list to see what pick we're at.

[Bretsky]

You have to think after the way we beat the Eagles this year, they're looking for secondary help. But I don't know if there's anyone worth taking here.

However, they also have a pressing need on the OL. More at tackle, but Pouncey still on the board is too much to pass up.

The Eagles select Mike Pouncey, G, Florida.

Jimmy Smith would have been the one CB to consider; not sure if they'd take him though. Great talent but definite character concerns