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  • #31
    From what all of you are saying, I would think that most 'one read and run' QB's from college are not going to be successful. Tebow essentially did this, didn't he? Cam Newton was more than willing to take off running as well.

    Not many guys, outside of Vick and Cunningham have had success with this.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
      I think scouts are enamored with arm strength and athletic ability. Don't get me wrong, Rodgers has both. However, it's harder to measure accuracy (impossible to do based just off college numbers and throwing at the combine) and football intelligence. I think those end up being bigger factors. Almost every good QB has a good enough arm, accuracy, some mobility, football intelligence, toughness, and ice water in his veins. Many of those are hard to scout.
      I thought I read an article a while back that showed the Mendoza line for college QB accuracy translating to the NFL to be at 60%. QBs who threw better than that in college had a much better chance of throwing well in the NFL and consequently becoming a successful NFL QB than those who didn't.
      No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
        I thought I read an article a while back that showed the Mendoza line for college QB accuracy translating to the NFL to be at 60%. QBs who threw better than that in college had a much better chance of throwing well in the NFL and consequently becoming a successful NFL QB than those who didn't.
        With the spread offense in vogue, a large majority of QBs in college that are pro prospects complete 60%, so I'm not sure how much that helps. I have heard that as a barometer though, and I think Locker (or Mallet) was under that threshold.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #34
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
          With the spread offense in vogue, a large majority of QBs in college that are pro prospects complete 60%, so I'm not sure how much that helps. I have heard that as a barometer though, and I think Locker (or Mallet) was under that threshold.
          Wouldn't that make it even more shocking if a QB couldn't hit 60% then?
          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Guiness View Post
            From what all of you are saying, I would think that most 'one read and run' QB's from college are not going to be successful. Tebow essentially did this, didn't he? Cam Newton was more than willing to take off running as well.

            Not many guys, outside of Vick and Cunningham have had success with this.
            I think Vick and Cunningham really predate the modern spread offense, specifically the zone read which is the number one cause of "one look and run" guys you have now. Vick's running at VT was in lieu of a checkdown, not in lieu of a second read like Newton's was.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Pugger View Post
              Didn't he tweak his hammy or knee the following year but it wasn't a big deal cuz he wasn't the starter? I thought I read somewhere at the time that had he been the starter he would've played the next game.
              This could've been a clever way to nip any potential quarterback controversy in the bud, as this was the week after the Dallas game.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                Once, to draft wide receiver Troy Williamson at No. 7....
                The Bottom Line:
                Formally Numb, same person, same views of M3

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                  Another thing great NFL QB's do is anticipate coverages, throwing guys open.

                  If they're doing things like that, the things that make you think they're a step ahead of everyone else mentally, and they have a full toolbox of tools. . . . I would think those would be guys you can project well into the NFL.
                  Justin, credit where credit is due. You are learning the game. You wouldn't have made the posts that you have made in this thread 5 years ago.

                  You are there, dude.

                  (or as there as any of us on the fan level get to.)

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Jimx29 View Post
                    Awesome! I love the one where he totally misjudges the ball when diving for it, and it hits him in the facemask!

                    Didn't he end up having bad vision and getting lasik surgery? Sure looks like he can't freakin see!
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
                      Yeah, but we got lucky when they hired Chilly from under TT's nose. IIRC, Chilly was favoured to replace Shermie, but didn't make it out of Minnie. And, I love their fans that post here. I wish Rastak would frequent our little cyber-home more often.

                      It'll be interesting to see how they develop.
                      Chilly was the popular fan/pundit pick to be the next Packer coach. But when does TT do what the pundits and fans think? Based upon MM's personality and the type of coach that he is, I highly doubt that TT would have hired Chilly. MM is strong, passionate and proactive. Chilly is calm, permissive, and passive - not what TT apparently looks for.

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                      • #41
                        Rumors and reports of in-limbo Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb's interest in the Vikings have been plentiful this offseason.


                        A move they should have made last year. It would be very interesting to see what they would give in a trade.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by LP View Post
                          http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...onovan-mcnabb/

                          A move they should have made last year. It would be very interesting to see what they would give in a trade.
                          He's going to have to be released. No one is going to pay the silly contract Snyder signed him to, which includes a $10million bonus, I believe on opening day.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                            He's going to have to be released. No one is going to pay the silly contract Snyder signed him to, which includes a $10million bonus, I believe on opening day.
                            He'd still be cheaper than the old bastard they had at QB last year. And he's "only" 34.

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                            • #44
                              I think McNabb is a good fit for the Purple, I really do. Their new OC, Bill Musgrave, is an ex-QB, has mainly coached QBs, has gathered experience as OC at other clubs. His last gig was with the 13-3 Falcons.

                              I think together, McNabb and Musgrave could become a force. I'd still recommend they take a QB in the 2nd, if one of the top 6 make it that far.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
                                I think McNabb is a good fit for the Purple, I really do. Their new OC, Bill Musgrave, is an ex-QB, has mainly coached QBs, has gathered experience as OC at other clubs. His last gig was with the 13-3 Falcons.

                                I think together, McNabb and Musgrave could become a force. I'd still recommend they take a QB in the 2nd, if one of the top 6 make it that far.
                                I would be HIGHLY surprised if he goes Purple just because of the fact that they have no passing game to speak of and that Line is TERRIBLE
                                Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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