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  • Excellent Mock, make for the benefit of Packerfanistan

    Players Re-signed:

    John Kuhn
    Brandon Jackson
    Daryn Colledge
    Mason Crosby
    Brett Swain

    Players Who Leave:

    Cullen Jenkins
    James Jones
    Jason Spitz

    Players Cut/Traded:

    Donald Lee
    Derrick Martin
    Brady Poppinga
    Mark Tausher
    Johnny Jolly


    1st - DE - Muhammed Wilkerson - Big, quick, strong, Wilkerson is everything you look for in a 3-4 DE



    2nd - RT - James Carpenter - Underrated prospect. What 2 years at JUCO cost him in recognition, he made up for with elite all SEC play (voted by coaches) in 2010.



    3rd - CB - Ras-I Dowling - Ultra productive corner. Outplayed Chris Cook for 3 years. Injures his entire SR season. Dowling has every tool and every skill to be great on the next level




    4th - WR - Greg Salas - Nelson moves up, Jones moves on, Salas enters as the next Packer WR in training



    4th - OG - John Moffit - Colledge stays for now, but he's put on notice with the drafting of Moffit and the development of Lang. Thompson freaks out at the thought of losing his only ugly Wisconsin Badger. He presses the panic button and drafts Moffit.




    5th - SS - Joe Lefeded - Great ST's player. Strong, fast, very athletic.




    6th - OT - Lee Ziemba - He's a skinny 320 lbs - Underrated player. Athletic in short area but slow 40. Clifton's old and Tausher moves on, so the depth is much needed from this draft.




    7th - OLB - Marc Schiechl - Ultra productive small school pass rusher. Excellent athlete. Worht a shot at OLB. Very similar to Zombo.



    7th - WR - Shaky Smithson - Quicker than he is fast, Smithson is a dominant punt returner and excellent KR. When I did the image search, this came up. Shaky Smithson is actually about 6' tall, 195 lbs and is an athletic looking black guy with mini-dreads.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

  • #2
    I don't really like how late the OLB situation is addressed. Personally I'd rather have Dontay Moch in the 2nd or 3rd than either of the guys you posted, kid's Brian Orakpo but 2" shorter.
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    • #3
      By the way, why does DE seem to be such a high priority? I guess I just don't see it, even with Jolly and Jenkins gone. They have Raji and Pickett who are sure-fire starters, and Neal who flashed for the other spot, Howard Green on run downs, and CJ Wilson lining up on pass downs with Raji and/or Neal. I think it was Patler who pointed out the Packers basically only use 2.5 DL per game anyway...

      I get needing depth, but Pickett isn't nearing the end quite yet. I guess I just don't see it despite many pundits claiming it's close to the number one need.
      No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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      • #4
        Yeah. I like Dowling a lot, but I'd rather have an OLB than a CB. Moch looks like a great OLB prospect. Maybe my next one will have that change.


        DE - Wilkerson
        OT - Carpenter (if you look at his JR and SR seasons at Alabama, he's a top tier OT and like Alualu last year and Ryan Matthews, I think this guy is going to go shockingly high)
        OLB - Moch (elite athlete, very productive OLB/DE in college)



        If we hit those three positions with our first three picks, we'll all be doing back flips.
        Last edited by RashanGary; 04-17-2011, 01:07 PM.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #5
          Meh, I was doing backflips the year TT drafted AJ. I remember how many people were doing backflips when TT draft Rodgers. None!

          I've stopped doing backflips on draft weekend. I enjoy the speculation and I enjoy the commentary here after each pick a great deal.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
            By the way, why does DE seem to be such a high priority? I guess I just don't see it, even with Jolly and Jenkins gone. They have Raji and Pickett who are sure-fire starters, and Neal who flashed for the other spot, Howard Green on run downs, and CJ Wilson lining up on pass downs with Raji and/or Neal. I think it was Patler who pointed out the Packers basically only use 2.5 DL per game anyway...

            I get needing depth, but Pickett isn't nearing the end quite yet. I guess I just don't see it despite many pundits claiming it's close to the number one need.
            But Jolly and Jenkins are gone. Almost assuredly. There's < 1% chance Jolly is back, and a very low chance Jenkins remains. He gets his payday elsewhere, IMO. My guess would be that he goes to a team switching systems, either from 4-3 to 3-4 or vice versa, and doesn't have the personel. Jenkins has shown ability in both systems, and would be a guy that could plug a hole. The Broncos? They seem to like recycling DLinemen, and they certainly have a bad D right now.

            I wouldn't count on Neale for much, it would just be a nice surprise if he contributed. I don't see it as a position of great need, but something to address at some point in the draft.
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            • #7
              I think the need at DE is mitigated in large part because, when left to his druthers, Dom Capers will not have more than 2 defensive linemen on the field. Generally we only have 3 down DL on first down, and on short yardage, and frequently the defense lines up in nickel on 1st and 10. Dom only actually bothers to play a 3-4 against teams where he's concerned about the run. Most of the time we're a 2-4-5 team.

              That being said, I'd much rather draft a later round developmental DL prospect like Brandon Bair out of Oregon than spend our first on a part time player.
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              • #8
                John Mofffitt would be a great pick for GB in round 3 or after; he's a nasty brawler IMO and a Packer person
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #9
                  I'd also welcome Shaky Smithson.
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #10
                    Notes on Salsa from a site I enjoy

                    Greg Salas, WR, Hawaii
                    Height: 6-1. Weight: 206.
                    Projected 40 Time: 4.60.
                    Combine 40 Time: .
                    Pro Day 40 Time: .
                    Vertical: . Broad: . Hand: 9 1/4.
                    Projected Round (2011): 3-5.
                    4/3/11: Greg Salas stood on his Combine numbers at Hawaii's Pro Day. He worked out in front of 30 teams, including Ted Thompson and Hue Jackson.

                    1/27/10: As forum member Mycarman called him, "The Hawaiian Salsa Guy," Greg Salas really showed off his great hands during Senior Bowl practice. He's solidified his status as a Round 3-4 slot receiver.

                    3/31/10: We're used to seeing big numbers from Hawaii receivers - Greg Salas collected 106 receptions, 1,590 yards and eight touchdowns in 2009.
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #11
                      HERE is a guy I'd LOVE to see in Green n Gold if you want to read about him; unfortunately he's a little buzzer so I'm not sure how much TT would like him.

                      Draft him...........we've got our punt and kickoff returner

                      IMO he's more of a third round guy partly due to his height.


                      Jerrel Jernigan, WR/KR, Troy
                      Height: 5-9. Weight: 185.
                      Projected 40 Time: 4.39.
                      Combine 40 Time: 4.47.
                      Pro Day 40 Time: 4.32.
                      Vertical: 38. Broad: 10-4. Hand: 9 1/4.
                      Projected Round (2011): 2-3.
                      3/5/11: Jerrel Jernigan was the only player of note at Troy's Pro Day. Jernigan really shined, running two 40s of 4.32 and 4.38. He also improved his vertical leap by half an inch. CBS' Rob Rang compares Jernigan to Deion Branch, citing Jernigan's ability to "shift gears and explode through traffic with a rare burst." With this great workout, Jernigan increased his chances of going in Round 2.

                      10/1/10: Jernigan is an athletic player in the open field. He has 31 catches for 384 yards and two touchdowns on the year, but 209 of his receiving yards came against Arkansas State.

                      3/31/10: Had a big year for Troy, catching 71 balls for 1,101 yards and four touchdowns. Also averaged 23 yards on kickoff returns.
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • #12
                        I think James Carpenter is going to be a stud in the NFL and get drafted a lot higher than the media types have him going. He went under the radar because he played two years at JUCO, but he was too dominant against the best in college football for him to not be considered a top tier OT. He was the best and that was playing against the best.
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                        • #13
                          Positives:

                          Carpenter has impressive size at nearly 6’5”, 315 pounds even if he isn’t very well toned at that weight. He has long arms and big hands, which help him as a run and pass blocker. He has solid lateral agility and pretty good footwork to mirror pass rushers, but his greatest value is as a run blocker in my opinion. He consistently drive blocks well with good hand placement in the running game and sustains his blocks well thanks to his big, strong hands and long arms which make his blocks hard to get off of. He has good technique as both a run and pass blocker, does not bend at the waist but at the knees. He is also more mobile than I thought he would be, as he routinely demonstrates the ability to combo-block a defender and then move to the second level and engage a linebacker. He moves well for a man of his size in space and has a solid first step off the line of scrimmage to help him down-block on DT’s or to seal his man on a draw play. Carpenter also does a good job of taking his man out of the play in pass protection if he gets his hands on him. Also surprisingly good at cut blocks for his size.

                          Negatives:

                          I don’t think Carpenter can stick at left tackle in the NFL as a starter. I think he could play there in a pinch if your starter went down, but overall I think he is a right tackle. He is solid off the ball but even though he has good technique and footwork he just doesn’t have the lateral agility to mirror speed rushers who can fly around the edge. When facing players like this he will open his hips a bit too early, making him vulnerable to the inside move. At times he seems to be waiting for the defender to come to him and waiting to engage him in pass protection when he could get into position and get his hands on him to help force him wide or take him out of the play. When moving in space he struggles to change direction quickly and while he has the athleticism to pull, set up screens and even cut block I don’t think he would be a good fit in a zone blocking scheme.

                          Overall:

                          James Carpenter is a quality offensive tackle prospect. Is he going to be a Pro-Bowler at LT? No. But I think he will be a quality starter for a long time at right tackle in the NFL. He is very durable and didn’t miss a start in his career at Alabama. He is tough, he has experience in a pro-style offense so he could arguably contribute right away if needed once he learns the offensive terminology, and because his technique is already well developed you know what you are getting with him. He isn’t a project, which means his ceiling isn’t as high, but he is someone who can contribute early in his career in my opinion. He should be a quality pass blocker as long as he doesn’t have to block great speed rushers off the edge and he should be a quality run blocker as well, making him a worthwhile pick for someone in need of a quality right tackle and a spot-starter at left tackle.

                          Projection: 3rd round. Carpenter could go early-late 3rd round in my opinion. Will he go early in that round? It’s hard to say. With a good combine and pro-day showing it is certainly possible, but because he isn’t a terrific athlete I think it is likely that he doesn’t improve his stock much during those events while other more athletic/lesser known players could emerge and pass him up. I could see him falling to the fourth round, but I think he would be a great pick anywhere in the 3rd round
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #14
                            to be honest when I looked Carpenter up I felt I had a pretty good knowledge of the OT prospects before him but didn't know a ton about Carpenter. Here was one writeup. I kind of think Buluga is a RT; if TT thinks that I think he'll want his picks to project as possible LT's or OG's as well.
                            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                            • #15
                              Steve Smith is listed at 5'-9" and 185lb. Went in the 3rd #74.

                              Just sayin'.

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