Injunction Junction

[Jimx29]

This twist leaves me not understanding what the hell is going on out there.

How does a union which is not a union remain represented by its union leaders and force the owners to treat them as if they are not a union?

^what he said^

[swede]

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The plaintiffs "have made a strong showing that allowing the League to continue their 'lockout' is presently inflicting, and will continue to inflict, irreparable harm upon them, particularly when weighed against the lack of any real injury that would be imposed on the NFL by issuing the preliminary injunction," Nelson wrote.

Seriously...how the FUCK do these retarded men and women become judges in the first place?

Her legal reason for finding for the players is that the lockout hurts their careers? Would someone please slap her with her bogus law degree and explain to her that--ostensibly--judges are supposed to find LEGAL grounds for making decisions, not listen to sympathetic vibrations emanating from the oracle in Sonia Sotomayor's uterus.

[Lurker64]

The more competent judges move up the ladder through their careers. So the Appeals courts judges are generally noticeably more competent than the people who are beneath them on the totem pole. So that bodes well for the NFL in Round 2.

[red]

i got a question

in the starcaps and that american needle case it was determined that there are 32 seperate entities not just one giant league controlling everything, right?

could the packers then just say, "fuck the rest of the league", go out and break the lockout, sign whoever wants to get paid now, and start offseason workouts with our players

for one, we are the one team in the NFL without a greedy owner trying to maximize his profits. we are also the only team that gave the players what they wanted and opened our books so the whole world could see where the money goes, if every other team would have done this, there would be a new cba by now.

obviously it would benefit the packers to have a cba, but the green bay packers are really getting screwed by the other 31 teams in this whole situation

could we "cross the picket line" and do this?

[red]

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Seriously...how the FUCK do these retarded men and women become judges in the first place?

Her legal reason for finding for the players is that the lockout hurts their careers? Would someone please slap her with her bogus law degree and explain to her that--ostensibly--judges are supposed to find LEGAL grounds for making decisions, not listen to sympathetic vibrations emanating from the oracle in Sonia Sotomayor's uterus.

i read something the other day that really made a lot of sense. minnesota and their laws are really screwing the nfl right now and has become a massive headache for the league. i bet theres a pretty good chance that the league would love to get the hell out of minnesota so they never have to deal with this shit again.

there could be a damn big push to move the vikings, new stadium or not

[KYPack]

Red, there is a school of thought that thinks the NFL based their strategy largely on losing before Nelson. The league plans on focusing (well they better now) their strategy on the appeal. That would take it to another court and be more favorable to the league than the wackier Minny court.

As far as your 'going rogue' idea. Who would we play?

[SkinBasket]

Seriously...how the FUCK do these retarded men and women become judges in the first place?

Seriously, when was the last time the courts in this nation were beholden to "law?"

The judiciary is a liberal playground, especially in matters of employment law, because "conservative" judges feel bound by law and the constitution and whatnot. Liberal, and progressive judges, essential make the rules as they go. Gives the liberal, progressive, labor movement a very very large advantage in the courts these days when one side plays by the rules and the other side doesn't even know what a rule is.

[RashanGary]

Is the players rush to get the court process started starting to make a little more sense to you, skinbasket, or do you still think they're a bunch of dummies out screwing themselves just to show us all how stupid they are?

[swede]

Personally, I think the owners should cash in the whole fucking deal and let the players start their own league, see how it goes. Unless the judge in Minnesota thinks that the league is obligated to continue with no control of its venture paying the players whatever they choose to be paid.

The Boys and Girls Club of Green Bay would get a lot of athletic equipment.

[RashanGary]

Give up the publicly funded stadiums and I think they'd have a nice go of it.

[RashanGary]

I wouldn't mind if the communities each team is in purchased the stadiums with tax dollars and they had 32 Green Bay Packers. They could pay back the tax dollars with the 9 billion dollar profits. I'd be fine getting rid of those owners.

[swede]

I wouldn't mind if the communities each team is in purchased the stadiums with tax dollars...

Some statements just stand on their own.

[RashanGary]

32 Green Bay Packers would be fine with me.

[red]

Red, there is a school of thought that thinks the NFL based their strategy largely on losing before Nelson. The league plans on focusing (well they better now) their strategy on the appeal. That would take it to another court and be more favorable to the league than the wackier Minny court.

As far as your 'going rogue' idea. Who would we play?

i like JH's idea, about cities taking over their stadiums.

i'll take it one step further.

lets say the lockout is about to wipe out the full season. i new league forms, maybe the cities own the teams, maybe its other private owners. they play in the same stadiums but with different team names. you maybe hold an ultimate draft type deal where every player is up for grabs, the players can play if they want, or they can sit around and see if the nfl returns, my guess is many would play. maybe abc and tnt give up some big money to televise these games

current owners would be shit out of luck, new owners or cities would reap the rewards, and the fans would be happy watching pro football

[Lurker64]

All I really want is for the current NFL to persist, the full season to be played, for the draft to continue in perpetuity, for there to be a salary cap and a floor, and for reasonable free agency restrictions (RFAs for years 3 & 4, and the franchise tag, say), and for there to be a rookie wage scale. Why is that too much to ask?