If lockout is lifted, can the Packers now trade...

[ND72]

Before anyone starts attacking me, I do not taking any of the labor stuff seriously, I think it's all a fucking joke, especially in the NFL and the 9billion industry. I am a teacher, FYI, making $35,000 year, not the $89,000 Ron Paul says we all make. I think walker is a joke, but that isn't of discussion I care to get into here. The NFL labor dispute I feel is just stupid on both sides.

[Lurker64]

I think we can all agree that both the league and the players are behaving like spoiled children and endangering the sport of football (both professional and amateur) as a result.

[get louder at lambeau]

But isn't it suspicious how they did it shortly after the anti-trust suit was filed? Should they be able to bully them off of their attempt to protect their rights? Can the court connect that dot? I think that's a question here and a very strong possible reason for the courts protecting the players rights here.

Suspicious? The NLFPA knew the lockout was coming, and the lawsuit is to try to stop the lockout that they knew was coming within hours.

What rights are you referring to that the players are supposed to be protecting?

[get louder at lambeau]

Before anyone starts attacking me, I do not taking any of the labor stuff seriously, I think it's all a fucking joke, especially in the NFL and the 9billion industry. I am a teacher, FYI, making $35,000 year, not the $89,000 Ron Paul says we all make. I think walker is a joke, but that isn't of discussion I care to get into here. The NFL labor dispute I feel is just stupid on both sides.

I really hope that, as a teacher, you understand that those numbers are referring to different things. $35,000 is your salary. $89,000 is average total compensation, including pension, healthcare, and all other benefits that the government provides per teacher, per year. It kinda scares me that you would even post that. It's either dishonest or ignorant to state it that way.

[ND72]

I really hope that, as a teacher, you understand that those numbers are referring to different things. $35,000 is your salary. $89,000 is average total compensation, including pension, healthcare, and all other benefits that the government provides per teacher, per year. It kinda scares me that you would even post that. It's either dishonest or ignorant to state it that way.

To be fair, according to Ron Paul, I make $89,000 a year plus all benefits, my salary is $35,000 and my healthcare which covers my entire family and pension is worth $100,000. There are no other compensations or benefits. And let's not go anywhere with this because there are a lot of mistruths that the public thinks the government provides which it truly does not, so let's just drop that now. And, the Ron paul thing is a direct quote from him, so let's not make that argument either.

[get louder at lambeau]

To be fair, according to Ron Paul, I make $89,000 a year plus all benefits, my salary is $35,000 and my healthcare which covers my entire family and pension is worth $100,000. There are no other compensations or benefits. And let's not go anywhere with this because there are a lot of mistruths that the public thinks the government provides which it truly does not, so let's just drop that now. And, the Ron paul thing is a direct quote from him, so let's not make that argument either.

I know nothing about what Ron Paul said. In Milwaukee Public Schools, the average teacher cost including benefits is just over $100,000, so I would assume any $89,000 number would be relatively close to the state average, and probably not someone lying about your compensation.

As far as "mistruths" about the $100,000 number, here is the Manager of Financial Planning for Milwaukee Public Schools saying it herself- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x2N4...embedded#at=79

[ND72]

Don't compare Wisconsin to Milwaukee...they are the reason for many educational and financial issues in this state. Over paying of MANY there is a drastic issue.

[SkinBasket]

In private labor-management disputes, like this one Smidgeon's comment: "A lockout is a legal move. A strike is a legal move. Both sides have a tool to use to show labor unrest." is entirely correct.

How awesome would it be to have a judge willing to force the players to work. You know? Like slaves.

But since it's the "evil" owners on the other side, it's okay for our government to strip them of their rights on a whim. Well, not really a whim, more like a progressive agenda, but I say tomato and you say помидор, comrade.

[swede]

Scott Walker IS a tool that caused labor unrest.

[Lurker64]

Well, Nelson denied the stay but said essentially that free agency doesn't have to start yet, so nothing has to happen until the 8th Circuit has the opportunity to rule. Probably the most teams would be on the hook for is "letting guys into the building" (they can probably keep the weight room locked still).

[Smidgeon]

Well, Nelson denied the stay but said essentially that free agency doesn't have to start yet, so nothing has to happen until the 8th Circuit has the opportunity to rule. Probably the most teams would be on the hook for is "letting guys into the building" (they can probably keep the weight room locked still).

And it sounds like she was opening up trades during the draft too...if I read Florio's piece correctly.