Top 100 players running thread

[MadtownPacker]

Or a search engine which allows you to search for images... hmmm... if only such a thing existed. :-p

(Fuck Im gonna regret this)

I set you up with album permissions too.

[3irty1]

Or a search engine which allows you to search for images... hmmm... if only such a thing existed. :-p

That won't be good enough for this, the images all need to be the same size and filetype. It'd be even better if each image had their name in it, like a football card.

[MadtownPacker]

I just read your post and I see you want to do more than just pictures. I can make a separate DB for this so we dont have to worry about it. If there is some opensource shit you can use let me know and I will install it.

[3irty1]

The only thing I'll probably need is jquery if you don't already have it.

Looking at all the major sports sites, the only one that's really accessible with a wget script is cbssports and that would get us 60x80 thumbnails that are so boring we might as well use names. Action shots would be better. For images we'll probably have to do it skin's way. We can do a google images search for images all in the same aspect ratio and I can write a script using imagemagic to format them all the same. Putting their name right on the image is greedy and not needed.

[3irty1]

Well the ranking script is all done and works. I did a smaller version of our experiment for QB's only. It is being hosted on my personal site. I don't really want to post the URL but those who want to see it can PM me.

Someone needs to take initiative to build our list of top 100 nominees. Any suggestions on how we get such a list?

[Partial]

That won't be good enough for this, the images all need to be the same size and filetype. It'd be even better if each image had their name in it, like a football card.

Read in the bitmap of the image, convert to png, boom, done. Should be really easy. Lemme know if you need help w/ anything.

[SkinBasket]

(Fuck Im gonna regret this)

I set you up with album permissions too.

You won't regret it. I don't even know what that means. I'm willing to find pictures after we build our list though. I'm assuming you just gave me a place to put them.

You'll just have to let me know if you want the images to be "action shots" as in playing football or flogging the dolphin. I'm assuming my masterworks in the GC are the only resume I need for the latter.

[pbmax]

Allow me to play middle manager for a moment. What is the focus of this list, the point? Best players now? Best players you would choose to build a team with and go forward? More of a lifetime achievement so the list looks like the Hall of Fame candidates from the current rosters?

For me, the focus should be which players you would take to win a game next week.

Should all positions be represented?

Should this be a separate thread with a poll question?

I will volunteer to help setup the list. And if I have to filibuster until 2012, Daryn Colledge will be on that list.

[Fritz]

Let me, too, make a suggestion: someone with some real internet know-how might be able to dig up embarrassing pictures of each player. Say, like Plaxico Burress shooting himself in the leg. Brent Favre's cockshot. The infamous photoshopped Rats pic of Justin Harrell pulling a Najeh Davenport. Rex Grossman taking it in the backside from KGB.

If we're gonna have pictures, let's have pictures!

[3irty1]

When I said action shots I meant anything that isn't the mugshots they use for nfl,espn,cbssports,si, etc. When I created the QB demo on my personal site I ran a bash script to resize, recolor(to web optimize), and convert them all to png. As long as we keep an aspect ratio, this might not be that bad.

I'm with PBmax that the criteria should be "Who is currently better at football?" where upside, career, contract, and position are not taken into account. Basically if Madden ratings were real, who's would be higher?

Mad, I won't need jquery afterall, id did it all with php. Does the software you use have a wrapper type feature like Joomla had? If not it would be nice to have the header.php, footer.php, and corresponding .css file so that when this is done it can be fully integrated into the site with links to the forum and such because I think this will get a lot of traffic to the site.

[3irty1]

For anyone who is interested, I've had a few dozen people come to my site so far today. This is the current QB rankings:

1) Tom Brady
2) Ben Roethlisberger
3) Aaron Rodgers
4) Peyton Manning
5) Philip Rivers
6) Matt Ryan
7) Josh Freeman
8) Jay Cutler
9) Matt Hasselbeck
10) Tony Romo
11) Drew Brees
12) Joe Flacco
13) Michael Vick
14) Jason Campbell
15) David Garrard
16) Matt Schaub
17) Donovan Mcnabb
18) Kyle Orton
19) Matt Cassel
20) Carson Palmer
21) Eli Manning
22) Matthew Stafford
23) Sam Bradford
24) Colt Mccoy
25) Brett Favre
26) Kevin Kolb
27) Mark Sanchez
28) Vince Young
29) Kerry Collins
30) Alex Smith
31) Jimmy Clausen
32) Rex Grossman
33) Tim Tebow
34) Chad Henne
35) Ryan Fitzpatrick
36) Derek Anderson

[Smidgeon]

I already think those rankings--despite the small sample size--are more accurate than the players'. I would have put Flacco, Brees, and Schaub higher and Roethlisberger, Hasselbeck, Campbell, and Harrard lower.

A suggestion. Instead of having an "either/or" option, have a third option for "Don't Know/Too Close to Call". That way people who really don't know that much about one of the players (say, a defensive lineman from Buffalo) wouldn't be forced to penalize them for not being recognized.

[3irty1]

After this is implemented we're clearly going to start ranking everything this way from "PR poster power rankings" to "Best breakfast cereal."

[MadtownPacker]

When I said action shots I meant anything that isn't the mugshots they use for nfl,espn,cbssports,si, etc. When I created the QB demo on my personal site I ran a bash script to resize, recolor(to web optimize), and convert them all to png. As long as we keep an aspect ratio, this might not be that bad.

I'm with PBmax that the criteria should be "Who is currently better at football?" where upside, career, contract, and position are not taken into account. Basically if Madden ratings were real, who's would be higher?

Mad, I won't need jquery afterall, id did it all with php. Does the software you use have a wrapper type feature like Joomla had? If not it would be nice to have the header.php, footer.php, and corresponding .css file so that when this is done it can be fully integrated into the site with links to the forum and such because I think this will get a lot of traffic to the site.

We should be able to have it on the site with the VBulletin. PM me with what you need to make it happen.

[Partial]

The QB rankings are actually pretty damn cool. The pics could afford to be a little bigger so as to avoid the cropping issue. Also, the focus/zoom could be a little greater. It's pretty cool.

What is the algorithm? Straight up one point per click where #1 has the most clicks? Any weighting for the winner factoring in the ranking of who the beat out? etc