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  • Lawrence Guy

    Interesting story.

    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

  • #2
    Woah.

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    • #3
      Definately makes you want to root for the guy. Hope he makes it.
      Fred's Slacks is a Winner!

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      • #4
        To me, as an educator, I find the story extraordinarily moving. A public school--any school really--has as much power to do damage as it does to build and foster growth.

        Here is a link that I opened with bated breath. "Best College Players Not Drafted". Would John Clay make the list?
        http://collegefootball.rivals.com/co...sp?CID=1217518
        [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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        • #5
          When I first saw the pick, I thought, "bah, 6th round DL, nothing special." When I read the story I realized how much he's overcome and then saw him working with children, he really showed heart. Then I watched a couple clips of him on youtube and he looked to have a relentless style of play. Then I saw how athletic he was in the workouts. . . .

          He slipped with learning/character concerns and lack of college tape, but he might be really good. We might have a Johnny Jolly type 6th round pick without the drug addiction/court troubles.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #6
            He's raw, but if anyone can coach him up, Trgo can.

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            • #7
              "One day, when Lawrence was in sixth grade, his older brother Dell – an eighth grader – pummeled a bully who had attacked Lawrence for the crime of not buying the bully a Gatorade with his own lunch money. Dell broke the boy’s nose, and because the school had a zero-tolerance policy for fighting, Dell was charged with battery and assault with a deadly weapon (for kicking the bully) and given a citation. He had to appear in court and was sent to anger management classes."


              Wow has the world changed. When I beat the shit out of a bully in sixth grade who kept trying to pick fights with me and other kids, the bully's parents complained because he had a knot and shiner on his head. But our teacher figured out what happened and basically dismissed the whole thing. He knew the bully got what he deserved. Assault with a deadly weapon. What horse shit.
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #8
                I knew you aint no puppy. I just knew it!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                  "One day, when Lawrence was in sixth grade, his older brother Dell – an eighth grader – pummeled a bully who had attacked Lawrence for the crime of not buying the bully a Gatorade with his own lunch money. Dell broke the boy’s nose, and because the school had a zero-tolerance policy for fighting, Dell was charged with battery and assault with a deadly weapon (for kicking the bully) and given a citation. He had to appear in court and was sent to anger management classes."


                  Wow has the world changed. When I beat the shit out of a bully in sixth grade who kept trying to pick fights with me and other kids, the bully's parents complained because he had a knot and shiner on his head. But our teacher figured out what happened and basically dismissed the whole thing. He knew the bully got what he deserved. Assault with a deadly weapon. What horse shit.
                  Notice how the article says he got a "citation" but doesn't say he was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon. It sounds like a typical trumped up charge to force a plea to a lesser charge. Pretty stupid.

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                  • #10
                    Dell was charged with battery and assault with a deadly weapon (for kicking the bully)
                    Shoes don't kick people, people do.
                    [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                    • #11
                      Things have change a bit more as they are cracking down on bullying as well as fighting.

                      The biggest knock on this guy is that he ignored all of his coaches telling him to stay in school another year. Unless there is something else going on that he didn't disclose, he should have stayed in for another year and improved to a 3-4th round pick.
                      2025 Ratpickers champion.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                        Things have change a bit more as they are cracking down on bullying as well as fighting.

                        The biggest knock on this guy is that he ignored all of his coaches telling him to stay in school another year. Unless there is something else going on that he didn't disclose, he should have stayed in for another year and improved to a 3-4th round pick.
                        That's exactly what I was thinking when I read the article.

                        Why did he forgo his senior year, and a chance to get a college degree to be a 7th round pick, a stutter step above a camp body?

                        Between the lockout, and his draft position, he could find himself on the street, without a college degree pretty shortly. As minicamps get missed, some writers are already calling this a lost draft. Even if a season were to happen now, rookies are going to have a much more difficult job displacing veterans this year. For a guy with a learning disability, it's that much harder.

                        From the sounds of the article, he expected to go higher. I hope he didn't make a big mistake.
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                        Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                        • #13
                          With the fact that DL don't play special teams, and we only suit 5 on game days, odds are we only keep 6 DL on the roster. Neal, Pickett, and Raji are starters, with Harold Green likely being both Raji and Pickett's backup and an easy healthy scratch against teams that won't run the ball much. So we've got two spots open between Harrell, Wynn, Wilson, Guy, and Curtis Young. Of that set, I think Wilson makes the roster on he basis of his play and his (presumed jump from year 1 and 2). I think Young is destined for the practice squad so Guy has to hope that neither Harrell nor Wynn distinguishes themselves. As much as we've given up on Harrell as a fanbase, you only achieve a $100,000 savings by cutting him (due to bonus acceleration) and when you factor in the fact that we'll have to pay somebody else more than $100,000 to play in his roster spot, so if Harrell is healthy and productive I think he makes the roster. If he gets hurt again, I think it's Wynn.

                          Lawrence Guy just seems destined for the practice squad, but I wish him all the best in the world.
                          </delurk>

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                          • #14
                            If Guy shows anything, there's little chance that Ted doesn't keep him over Harrell. IMHO, Harrell only makes the squad if DL get injured or don't show much. You can't trust his injury situation, so you aren't going to keep him over a player who shows promise. The final spot probably comes down to Wynn vs. Guy, but I wouldn't put it past Ted and Mike to keep 7 DL, if they all show they can play. They've had unbalanced rosters before.
                            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                            • #15
                              He's just a guy.

                              Sorry. Couldn't help myself.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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