PLAYER UNSURE WHY PACKERS NOT GIVING HIM A RING

[red]

you aren't allowed to just cut a guy who is injured without reaching an injury settlement. so the packers wanted to cut him, but he wouldn't sign. by no signing the settlement he forced his way onto the roster. when cut time came, either the packers could put him on IR, or they would have to keep a guy they didn't want over someone that they did want to keep.

i'm sure enough was enough as far as the team was concerned and this was just another way of them trying to tell him to "GO THE HELL AWAY, WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE"

[Patler]

Looking at articles about past champions, it is not uncommon for one or another IR member to not get a ring. The Saints had signed veteran guard Dan Campbell in the off season. He went on IR during training camp and did not get a ring last year. The reasoning with him was that he was rarely seen in NO after going on IR. But, he was an IR member every bit as much as all the others, and was within his rights to rehab wherever he wanted. Nothing required him to rehab in NO.

Some articles suggested that some teams did not give rings to anyone who did not spend time on the 53 man roster during the season. In that case, anyone who went on IR during TC would not get one.

[Scott Campbell]

Looking at articles about past champions, it is not uncommon for one or another IR member to not get a ring. The Saints had signed veteran guard Dan Campbell in the off season. He went on IR during training camp and did not get a ring last year. The reasoning with him was that he was rarely seen in NO after going on IR. But, he was an IR member every bit as much as all the others, and was within his rights to rehab wherever he wanted. Nothing required him to rehab in NO.

Some articles suggested that some teams did not give rings to anyone who did not spend time on the 53 man roster during the season. In that case, anyone who went on IR during TC would not get one.

Can you do me a favor and post the links? I'd love to read them.

[Patler]

Can you do me a favor and post the links? I'd love to read them.

If I can find any of them quickly, I will; but I didn't save any of them. I did a few searches a while back when the topic of Al Harris getting a ring came up and just skimmed through a bunch of articles.

[Patler]

This one wasn't too hard to dig up again:

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2010/06/new_orleans_saints_general_man_7.html

The club was more subjective with the players. Every player on the active roster during the season got one.
The Saints also rewarded selected players on the practice squad and injured reserve. For instance, Billy Miller and Mark Simoneau received rings. They stuck around all season, spent time in the locker room and in meetings and attended most of the games. Dan Campbell, who also was placed on injured reserve in the preseason and was rarely seen again, did not. That's fair.

[Cheesehead Craig]

He probably just wants the ring so he can sell it. The guy doesn't have much hope of a career for much longer anyways.

[Scott Campbell]

This one wasn't too hard to dig up again:

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf...ral_man_7.html

Good read - thanks Patler!

[woodbuck27]

http://www.packers.com/team/roster/Josh-Bell/e732f312-a3fd-4d91-b653-f13baf38f9e7

[Tony Oday]

Al Harris got one and was injured BEFORE camp.

[Patler]

Al Harris got one and was injured BEFORE camp.

Yup. We had a good discussion about that right after the SB, before it was announced that he would get one. I, personally, saw a lot of reasons to not give him one, but didn't really care one way or the other. Others felt differently. If I had been the one to make the decision, I'm not sure how I would have decided.

I am more curious about a few players who were on the 53 man roster for only a week or two. I think some were never active on game day. I wonder if all of them got one. I suspect so.

The Packers also ran a lot of players through the practice squad this year. Again, some were there only for a week or two due to injuries making the roster "thin". Guys were brought in to begin preparing in case injuries turned out to be severe and new player had to be added to the 53. I doubt that all of the guys who were on the PS at any time during the year got rings, but I know at least some of them did.

[bobblehead]

Al handled himself with class and worked his ass off to rejoin the team. When they waived him he barely complained considering. He went about his business of trying to play with another team and you never heard anything but great things about the Packers from Al. He got a ring and deserved one. He practiced with the team during the season and acted like a pro. Good enough for me.

[Fritz]

Someone mentioned that they ought to be able to give Bell a ring cuz they received 150 of them. But when you start thinking about the organization and all the dedicated employees that have to do their job right in order for the whole organization to work, I bet that 150 rings goes fast. I mean, who is worth more to the franchise? The IR'd corner who was a very small part of the team and didn't contribute much, or the assistant to the assistant uniform person who's been busting ass for ten years for the organization, one small but key component to making the whole machine work.

It takes a damn machine to make the product on the field even happen, much less happen at the level of excellence acheived by the Packers.

[Scott Campbell]

Someone mentioned that they ought to be able to give Bell a ring cuz they received 150 of them.

The Packers can have as many rings as they like. The league pays for up to $5000/ea. for the first 150.

[Lurker64]

It's entirely likely the Packers would have cut Bell in training camp, but Bell's agent was unwilling to negotiate for an injury settlement (agents often do this when the timeframe of the injury is long, say more than 10 weeks).

From the perspective of "we wanted to cut this guy in August" it's easy to see why they didn't give him a ring. I mean Quinn Porter and Jason Chery helped us more during camp and the preseason than Bell did, and nobody thinks those guys deserve rings.

[red]

Someone mentioned that they ought to be able to give Bell a ring cuz they received 150 of them. But when you start thinking about the organization and all the dedicated employees that have to do their job right in order for the whole organization to work, I bet that 150 rings goes fast. I mean, who is worth more to the franchise? The IR'd corner who was a very small part of the team and didn't contribute much, or the assistant to the assistant uniform person who's been busting ass for ten years for the organization, one small but key component to making the whole machine work.

It takes a damn machine to make the product on the field even happen, much less happen at the level of excellence acheived by the Packers.

great point fritz. think off all the janitors and cleaners, the people that work in the pro shop and the HOF, the tour guides and reception people, maintenance and grass cutters and the folks who work in the concession stands, and the ticket takers and ushers

all those people did more for this organization this year then bell did