Longwell?

[Tony Oday]

no rookie kickers please.

[Smidgeon]

no rookie kickers please.

The Packers did pretty well with their last rookie kicker. NFL record for point by rookie and won first game with a FG at the end in a tough venue at Philly...

That being said, I'd rather keep that former NFL rookie than find a new one...

[Lurker64]

no rookie kickers please.

I'd probably rather have a rookie kicker than Longwell, or another "well into the twilight of his career" guy.

[Tarlam!]

The easiest solution, of course, is to just keep scoring TDs and avoid FG attempts altogether, and going for 2 on every PAT. That reduces the duties down to a strong leg for kicking off.

There's just no way I can invent a scenario that brings Longwell back to Applebees.

[Lurker64]

Potentially worth considering is that Masthay kicked off at Kentucky, so if you got a kicker with more accuracy than range, you could probably rely on Masthay (though I don't think he has the leg that Crosby does.)

[MJZiggy]

Potentially worth considering is that Masthay kicked off at Kentucky, so if you got a kicker with more accuracy than range, you could probably rely on Masthay (though I don't think he has the leg that Crosby does.)

You're forgetting that Crosby is a genius at ball placement. Lousy kickoffs are extremely rare with him. I think you guys have gotten spoiled and just don't realize it.

[mraynrand]

You're forgetting that Crosby is a genius at ball placement. Lousy kickoffs are extremely rare with him. I think you guys have gotten spoiled and just don't realize it.

Good point. Me likey Crosby.

[Tarlam!]

Zig, I just think we're having this disussion out of pure lockout boredom. I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that TT doesn't get it done. Unless Crosby is gonna ask for crazy-money. His agent has a bit of leverage, I suppose.

[Patler]

There has been talk about teams have a limited number of "matching offer" options for this season only, as a transition into whatever the new FA rules will be. Sort of like some extra tags, but without the required salary tenders. If that happens, Crosby would be a good one to use one of them on.

[MJZiggy]

There has been talk about teams have a limited number of "matching offer" options for this season only, as a transition into whatever the new FA rules will be. Sort of like some extra tags, but without the required salary tenders. If that happens, Crosby would be a good one to use one of them on.

I'd rather just get a new contract done.

[Fritz]

It would seem he's more valuable to this team than, say, James Jones.

[Patler]

There has been talk about teams have a limited number of "matching offer" options for this season only, as a transition into whatever the new FA rules will be. Sort of like some extra tags, but without the required salary tenders. If that happens, Crosby would be a good one to use one of them on.

I'd rather just get a new contract done.

But that would accomplish exactly that, with his value determined by the league. If the team and player are having a hard time agreeing on his value, this would do that for them.

[Tarlam!]

It would seem he's more valuable to this team than, say, James Jones.

Interesting point, but just how much is he worth? Where is he rated from 1-32?

[MJZiggy]

But that would accomplish exactly that, with his value determined by the league. If the team and player are having a hard time agreeing on his value, this would do that for them.

I meant long-term contract. If players get angry at getting tagged, I'd rather see the team work out a long-term deal rather than anger the player and have the same discussion again next year.

[Smidgeon]

You're forgetting that Crosby is a genius at ball placement. Lousy kickoffs are extremely rare with him. I think you guys have gotten spoiled and just don't realize it.

I agree. He may be the best onside kicker in the league...