Get rid of the extra point

[red]

How about a free kick from 60 for 3

maybe we're getting somewhere here

an extra point attempt from the 40 WITH nets on each side of the uprights like arena football. if its no good then a return man can grab the ball and run. if its good, then the other team gets the ball at the 20.

that would combine the extra point and the kickoff eliminating at least one commercial break per score

[MJZiggy]

that would combine the extra point and the kickoff eliminating at least one commercial break per score

Which is exactly why it would never happen.

[Tarlam!]

a 20 yard pat hold no intrique in the game. 50 years ago when kickers had a steel toe boot on their kicking foot made the pat a little more compelling

What's your opinion? Should something bechanged? If so, to what?

[Guiness]

Ok Red, I like your points about how worthless it is as it stands, but how about going another route. Eliminate the PAT, but put in a 3 point option of kicking a 53 yarder (or something similar). Big leg kickers gain value. Going for 2 vs. 3 becomes mathematical during the game, but strategic towards the end.

I agree that the simple chip PAT isn't exciting, is acedemic and nothing would be lost if you eliminate it. Making it 2pts only would be cool, but adding a longer 3 point possibility would be really cool. Or maybe you could have more options....going for a 3 point conversion from the 8 yard line or a 2 point PAT from the 40ish yard line. Get rid of the single point and put in a couple of 2 and 3 point options.

I like this option. It would replace that annoying little sheet coaches use to decide if they're going to go for it with a small paperback!

[get louder at lambeau]

it was habitual for English university students in the 1880s to abreviate any word and then add on 'er' or 'ers' to it (so breakfast became brekkers, or rugby became ruggers).

What a bunch of douchers.

[Fritz]

And getting buttf*!%$# became getting buggered.

As for the extra point, the very safe NFL might agree to at least move the attempt back fifteen yards. Make it at least a little interesting, especially in bad weather games.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Get rid of the holders. Death to holders! Make them do a drop kick, which is a much more exciting and athletic play. It will also increase 2-point attempts, and what's not to like about that?

[MadtownPacker]

Great idea!

I just added to your rating (the green block above you avatar). I doubt anyone else will.

[Harlan Huckleby]

how do i get my bad reputation back? this system only allows you to approve of somebody, just like the Montessori school system where every child is a winner.

[RashanGary]

how do i get my bad reputation back? this system only allows you to approve of somebody, just like the Montessori school system where every child is a winner.

It's official, most of the trouble makers are back, except Tyrone and Tank.

[Tarlam!]

It's official, most of the trouble makers are back, except Tyrone and Tank.

I miss Bigguns

[Joemailman]

how do i get my bad reputation back? this system only allows you to approve of somebody, just like the Montessori school system where every child is a winner.

Great post Harlan. One of the best I've ever read. You are in the zone man.

[Tarlam!]

Great post Harlan. One of the best I've ever read. You are in the zone man.

BOMNF!

[Guiness]

Get rid of the holders. Death to holders! Make them do a drop kick, which is a much more exciting and athletic play. It will also increase 2-point attempts, and what's not to like about that?

Ok, this I like a lot.

I'm too lazy to look - what is the actual rule dealing with the Flutie drop kick? I believe that is done instead of a punt or going for it on 4th, right? What's the advantage of doing that over kicking a FG?

[Tarlam!]

I'm too lazy to look - what is the actual rule dealing with the Flutie drop kick? I believe that is done instead of a punt or going for it on 4th, right? What's the advantage of doing that over kicking a FG?

American and Canadian football

In both American football and Canadian football, one method of scoring a field goal or extra point is by drop-kicking the football through the goal.

The drop kick was often used in early football as a surprise tactic: The ball would be snapped or lateraled to a back, who would perhaps fake a run or pass, but then would kick the field goal instead. This method of scoring worked well in the 1920s and 1930s, when the football was rounder at the ends (similar to a modern rugby ball). Early football stars such as Jim Thorpe, Paddy Driscoll and Al Bloodgood were skilled drop-kickers; Driscoll in 1925 and Bloodgood in 1926 hold a tied NFL record of four drop-kicked field goals in a single game.[4]

In 1934, the ball was made more pointed at the ends. This made passing the ball easier, as was its intent, but made the drop kick obsolete, as the more pointed ball did not bounce up from the ground reliably. The drop kick was supplanted by the place kick, which cannot be attempted out of a formation generally used as a running or passing set. The drop kick remains in the rules, but is seldom seen, and rarely effective when attempted.

In popular media, a drop kick was successfully attempted in the Burt Reynolds film The Longest Yard, with Reynolds' character explaining its proper name and point value to a player (Ray Nitschke's character) on the opposing team.

In Canadian football (and, until 1998, the National Football League as well) the drop kick can be taken from any point on the field, unlike placekicks, which must be attempted behind the line of scrimmage.

[edit]American football
The only successful drop kick in the last sixty-plus years in the NFL was by Doug Flutie, the backup quarterback of the New England Patriots, against the Miami Dolphins on January 1, 2006, for an extra point after a touchdown.

Flutie had estimated "an 80 percent chance" of making the drop kick,[5] which was called to give Flutie, 43 at the time, the opportunity to make a historic kick in his final NFL game. (In fact, the drop kick was his last play in the NFL.) After the game, New England coach Bill Belichick said, "I think Doug deserves it,"[6] and Flutie said "I just thanked him for the opportunity."[5]

The last successful drop kick in the NFL before that was executed by Ray "Scooter" McLean of the Chicago Bears in their 37-9 victory over the New York Giants on December 21, 1941 in the NFL championship game at Chicago's Wrigley Field. Though it was not part of the NFL at the time, the All-America Football Conference saw its last drop kick November 28, 1948 when Joe Vetrano of the San Francisco 49ers drop kicked an extra point after a muffed snap against the Cleveland Browns.[7]

Dallas Cowboys punter Mat McBriar attempted a maneuver similar to a drop kick during the 2010 Thanksgiving Classic after a botched punt attempt, but the ball bounced several times before the kick and the sequence of events is officially recorded as a fumble, followed by an illegal kick, with the fumble being recovered by the New Orleans Saints 29 yards downfield from the spot of the kick. The Saints declined the illegal kick penalty.[8][9]

The last successful drop kick extra point in the NCAA was by Aaron Fitzgerald of the University of LaVerne on November 10, 1990 against Claremont-Mudd-Scripps.[10]