TOP UNDRAFTED PLAYERS FOR TT TO SIGN WISHLIST

[vince]

Regarding undrafted guys TT will sign, I'd have to go over to Football's Future or somewhere to find some names to hang up and throw darts at. #clueless

[Joemailman]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/s...will-get-calls


1. DT Ian Williams, Notre Dame

Williams fought through injury in 2010, missing time with a knee injury, but his toughness and hustle from the interior could allow him to contribute for a long time as a solid, if not overly flashy, 4-3 nose tackle/one-technique.

2. WR Terrance Toliver, LSU

Toliver's tape isn't superior, but his size/speed combination still typically earns an SEC receiver some sort of draft slot. He also looked good at the end of the season and at the East-West Shrine Game. He should latch on with a team interested in a vertical route runner with enough size to create mismatches against smaller cornerbacks.

3. QB Pat Devlin, Delaware

The Penn State transfer did not impress scouts with his arm strength at the East-West Shrine Game or his pro day, but his performance was not so poor that most didn't expect him to be drafted late. Though he ran primarily out of shotgun for the Blue Hens, he came out from under center at Penn State and has the size, athleticism and intelligence to stick on a roster as a backup or potential spot starter.

4. CB Ryan Jones, Northwest Missouri State

It was surprising that a solid cornerback who produced for a powerhouse Division II program and who blew up his pro day (40-inch vertical, 4.46 40 at 5-11, 198 pounds, 19 reps of 225 pounds) went undrafted. He is raw in his coverage and tackling techniques to be sure, but it won't be surprising to see him stick as a nickel back with potential as a starter down the line.

5. DT Martin Parker, Richmond

Another small-school prospect, Parker showed up big time at the East-West Shrine Game, but teams didn't appreciate his film enough to select him even late in the draft. Given time and coaching, Parker could be an interesting three-technique prospect who provides pass rush as a high-effort wave player.

TOP UNDRAFTED PLAYERS BY POSITION

Quarterbacks

Adam Froman (Louisville)
Taylor Potts (Texas Tech)
Adam Weber (Minnesota)
Josh Portis (California, Pa.)
Scott Tolzien (Wisconsin)

Running Backs

Derrick Locke (Kentucky)
Noel Devine (West Virginia)
Mario Fannin (Auburn)
Damien Berry (Miami)
Brandon Saine (Ohio State)

Wide Receivers

1. Dane Sanzenbacher (Ohio State)

2. *Darvin Adams (Auburn)

3. Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State)

4. Jeff Maehl (Oregon)

5. Armon Binns (Cincinnati)


Tight Ends

1. Andre Smith (Virginia Tech)

2. Schuylar Oordt (Northern Iowa)

3. Collin Franklin (Iowa State)

4. Weslye Saunders (South Carolina)

5. Zach Pianalto (North Carolina)

Offensive Tackles

1. Derek Hall (Stanford)

2. Willie Smith (East Carolina)

3. David Mims (Virginia Union)

4. D.J. Young (Michigan State)

5. Trevis Turner (Abilene Christian)

Offensive Guards

1. Zach Hurd (Connecticut)

2. Ray Dominguez (Arkansas)

3. Carl Johnson (Florida)

4. Justin Boren (Ohio State)

5. Andrew Phillips (Stanford)

Centers

1. Kris O'Dowd (Southern Cal)

2. Zane Taylor (Utah)

3. Tim Barnes (Missouri)

4. Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU)

5. Alex Linnenkohl (Oregon State)

Defensive Ends

1. Ugo Chinasa (Oklahoma State)

2. Brandon Bair (Oregon)

3. Pierre Allen (Nebraska)

4. Eddie Jones (Texas)

5. Marc Schiechl (Colorado School of Mines)

Defensive Tackles

1. Cedric Thornton (Southern Arkansas)

2. Ollie Ogbu (Penn State)

3. *Sealver Siliga (Utah)

4. Anthony Gray (Southern Miss)

5. Corbin Bryant (Northwestern)

Inside Linebackers

1. Jeff Tarpinian (Iowa)

2. Mario Harvey (Marshall)

3. Josh Bynes (Auburn)

4. Nick Bellore (Central Michigan)

5. Orie Lemon (Oklahoma State)

Outside Linebackers

1. Adrian Moten (Maryland)

2. Mark Herzlich (Boston College)

3. Jeremiha Hunter (Iowa)

4. Scott Lutrus (Connecticut)

5. *Thomas Keiser (Stanford)

Cornerbacks

1. Kendric Burney (North Carolina)

2. Loyce Means (Houston)

3. Talmadge Jackson III (Oregon)

4. Kevin Rutland (Missouri)

5. Darrin Walls (Notre Dame)

Free Safeties

1. Deunta Williams (North Carolina)

2. *Jerrard Tarrant (Georgia Tech)

3. Anthony Walters (Delaware)

4. *Will Hill (Florida)

5. Brian Lainhart (Kent State)

Strong Safeties

1. DeAndre McDaniel (Clemson)

2. Joe Lefeged (Rutgers)

3. Jeron Johnson (Boise State)

4. Mana Silva (Hawaii)

5. David Sims (Iowa State)

Specialists

1. Kai Forbath (UCLA)

2. Josh Jasper (LSU)

3. Dan Bailey (Oklahoma State)

4. Chas Henry (Florida)

5. Ryan Donahue (Iowa)

Chad Reuter is a Senior Analyst for NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange.

[MJZiggy]

I read an interview with some kid about what round of the supplemental draft he might go in. Are we having one of those this year?

[pbmax]

I read an interview with some kid about what round of the supplemental draft he might go in. Are we having one of those this year?

Terrell Pryor and his bartering friends from tOSU will be in the supplemental draft. It will occur next Thursday at 2 AM, each team has 7 seconds to pick before the next pick, due to the compressed preseason.

[vince]

Here are Gil Brandt's top 20 UDFA's.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d820e3eac/article/top-20-undrafted-free-agents-not-loaded-with-sudden-impact

1. Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware: Has size needed to succeed at the position, to go with accuracy and football intelligence.

2. Mark Herzlich, LB, Boston College: His battle against cancer is well documented and speaks to his hunger to play. If healthy, he can play all downs.

3. Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky: Has quickness and speed needed for success at running back.

4. DeAndre McDaniel, S, Clemson: Has all the traits needed to be a good safety.

5. Jake Kirkpatrick, C, TCU: A former high school basketball player who is strong and smart and has traits that remind some of Colts veteran Jeff Saturday.

6. Mario Fannin, RB, Auburn: Oustanding speed and pass-catching ability. Makes a lot of plays.

7. Nick Bellore, LB, Central Michigan: Very competitive linebacker. One of the all-time top tacklers in the MAC. Great special teams player.

8. Willie Smith, OT, East Carolina: Smart offensive tackle with long arms and good athletic ability. Excellent pass blocker.

9. Ray Dominguez, G, Arkansas: Strong guard who has the chance to start for someone in his second year.

10. Brandon Bair, DT, Oregon: Needs to add weight but has the frame to do so. Very active.

11. Sealver Siliga, DT, Utah: Strong at the point of attack and reminds some of another Utah product, Dolphins defensive tackle Paul Soliai.

12. Dane Sanzenbacher, WR, Ohio State: Slot receiver who will catch the ball across the middle and has outstanding hands.

13. Kendric Burney, CB, North Carolina: Lacks great speed but makes up for it with quickness and ball skills. Very good tackler.

14. John Clay, RB, Wisconsin: Strong, inside runner in the mold of Blount.

15. Ian Williams, DT, Notre Dame: A four-year starter at Notre Dame who is very strong and athletic.

16. Ricardo Lockette, WR, Fort Valley State: Teams love speed, and he is the fastest player available of all undrafted free agents.

17. Scott Tolzien, QB, Wisconsin: Smart quarterback with good but not great arm. Has been very successful with accuracy and ability to hit the right receivers.

18. Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia: Not tall, has great speed, production and hands. Possible WR/KR prospect.

19. Kyle Hix, OT, Texas: Long arms, very strong. Doesn't have good enough feet to play LT but could be good on right side.

20. Zach Hurd, G, Connecticut: He played guard at UConn but his best position might be as a RT because of his size and strength.

[MJZiggy]

You know you guys are going to go through all of this, TT will find some kid you never heard of, you'll all say WTF, and the kid will go on to make the team. That's just how it works.

[Bretsky]

You know you guys are going to go through all of this, TT will find some kid you never heard of, you'll all say WTF, and the kid will go on to make the team. That's just how it works.

I don't think any of us will say WTF on undrafted free agents...but we'll be able to bang our chests for a few seconds if we make some predictions.....aka....guesses correctly

[vince]

Pat Devlin would be nice. I could see him fetching a decent draft pick in a two or three years.

Just based on what Gil Brandt said about Willie Smith, he looks like he could be a TT kind of guy.

Noel Devine is only about 5'8" but can absolutely fly. He'd be fun to watch running down the sideline. Maybe a Sam Shields type pick-up for the return game and offense. Pair him up with Cobb on kick returns and it'd be electric.

[NewsBruin]

Quick thought: I don't think the NFL will (and definitely SHOULD NOT) let Terelle Pryor enter the next Supplemental Draft. Prior had eligible NCAA amateur status and CHOSE to leave college. The SD is for students who've involuntarily lost their eligibility and can no longer play college footbal (grades, arrest, "violation of team rules").

If Pryor is allowed into the Supplemental Draft, this could lead to a precedent of eligible college players dropping out after the NFL Draft, then signing as free agents with the team of their choice, pretty much torpedo-ing the concept of the draft.

[pbmax]

Quick thought: I don't think the NFL will (and definitely SHOULD NOT) let Terelle Pryor enter the next Supplemental Draft. Prior had eligible NCAA amateur status and CHOSE to leave college. The SD is for students who've involuntarily lost their eligibility and can no longer play college footbal (grades, arrest, "violation of team rules").

If Pryor is allowed into the Supplemental Draft, this could lead to a precedent of eligible college players dropping out after the NFL Draft, then signing as free agents with the team of their choice, pretty much torpedo-ing the concept of the draft.

But wouldn't suspension qualify him, even though it was only for 5 games? He might really regret taking those couple of classes now.

[Partial]

I just read that the roster size for camp has been expanded by 10 or so people, so TT can now sign more than 12 guys. I think he'll find a few gems. The more bodies the greater the chance!

[3irty1]

Willie Smith is #1 on my wishlist for TT

[retailguy]

Willie Smith is #1 on my wishlist for TT

I'm favoring Jon Nichol myself.

[pbmax]

Packer reputation will get a chance to make a difference as teams are now VERY limited in what they can spend on UDFAs. What really makes $75,000 budget ridiculous this year is the combo of a 90 man roster and a lower than 2009 salary cap. Teams will be having fist fights over camp bodies. It would also be this kind of environment that Denver Bronco style off-cap promises become popular again.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/25/undrafted-players-get-screwed-in-the-new-deal/

Undrafted players sign contracts for the minimum annual salaries. The only thing that distinguishes one team’s offer from another team’s offer is the signing bonus.

The decision to cap each team’s signing bonuses for undrafted free agents to $75,000 hurts these players who have been waiting patiently for work in a way far more significant than the dollars and cents of the signing bonus. As a league source explained it to me earlier today (and as I ranted a bit on PFT Live), it will now be harder for agents to know which teams are serious about the chances of an undrafted player to make the team.

Every team says it. But then when the team offers a signing bonus of only $2,500, the agent knows that it’s just talk. When $20,000 is offered, the agent knows that the team has real interest.

Per the source, one team was ready to offer $20,000 to six different undrafted players. Another team budgeted $150,000 for undrafted rookie signing bonuses.

None of that will happen now, and it will be even harder for undrafted players to know which teams truly have high regard for them, especially in a year that will include 90 players going to training camp. As a result, it’ll be even harder for the next Kurt Warner to separate from the scout team and become a Super Bowl hero.

[MadScientist]

Well, they could offer a roster bonus to UDFA's that make the team, but that is a double-edged sword as a player with a bonus due is more likely to be cut than one without one due. No matter how you slice it, the UDFA's really got screwed this year.