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  • #31
    Pelissero said Finley told him he weighs 245. https://twitter.com/#!/JermichaelF88

    If that's the case, he's fine. That's only 2 pounds under the weight listed on the Packers roster.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #32
      He's already manouvering for the big payday he's expecting, which is part of the business. What is a red flag is the stuff about how he has been used incorrectly. Sure he can say that stuff, but internally.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
        Umm whats fits our offense better? A passing catching TE or blocking TE? No reason why we should not be using Finley the same way the Chargers are using Gates.
        Personally, I'm lucky if I see one Charger game a year so I have no clue as to what the Chargers ask Gates to do, or how they line him up. However, being a receiving TE more than a blocking TE doesn't necessarily mean its a good idea to get smaller. Maybe he can get on linebackers or safeties quicker as he says, but if a linebacker particularly can toss him around because he is smaller, he might get to but not past the linebacker. If the coaches thought it was better for him to be lighter and faster, I would have thought they would have asked him to, and would have set up a training program to get there; in which case he wouldn't state that the Packers weren't going to like what he did.

        It's interesting to note that Gates is listed to be an inch shorter than Finley, but 13 pounds heavier. So, maybe to be used like Gates, Finley should get bigger and stronger, not leaner and quicker.

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        • #34
          It gets lonely in the igloo
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            Pelissero said Finley told him he weighs 245. https://twitter.com/#!/JermichaelF88

            If that's the case, he's fine. That's only 2 pounds under the weight listed on the Packers roster.
            Maybe he got fat while recovering and in this long, LONG offseason, so comparatively, he's leaner now?
            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
              Umm whats fits our offense better? A passing catching TE or blocking TE? No reason why we should not be using Finley the same way the Chargers are using Gates.
              He's a pass catcher whether or not he can block, it is not a zero sum game. What fits our offense better? A pass catching TE that can also block (allowing the Packer's to use the entire playbook) or a pass catching TE that can only line up as a WR because he can't block a lick?

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              • #37
                I really don't care what he tells the media as long as he stays out of trouble with the law and is all business when it comes to football.
                Last edited by Freak Out; 07-20-2011, 04:57 PM.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                  Umm whats fits our offense better? A passing catching TE or blocking TE? No reason why we should not be using Finley the same way the Chargers are using Gates.
                  A TE that isn't much of a blocker is kinda....a sad WR. A TE MUST be able to block smaller LB's and all DB's to be an effective TE.
                  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                  • #39
                    PS...my proof of this is that the NFL is getting to the point where most TE's are pass catchers and bad blockers, and guys like Dominator recognize this and line up in nickel all day since they don't worry about the TE knocking the safety out of the play.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #40
                      Finley is a dominant enough pass catcher, it wouldn't matter if he could block a lick. He'd still be a good player. That said, it's a big bonus if he could block well and Finley is alright at it.


                      As far as him being a problem. . . . He's confident. MM is good with egos. I think he can keep JF down.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                        Finley is a dominant enough pass catcher, it wouldn't matter if he could block a lick. He'd still be a good player. That said, it's a big bonus if he could block well and Finley is alright at it.


                        As far as him being a problem. . . . He's confident. MM is good with egos. I think he can keep JF down.
                        Nobody was arguing that he would not be a good player based just on this receiving skills. The question is whether or not the coaches would be happy if refuses to even trying to block (as he suggests in his interview). Considering it would be a big bonus if he does block, I have to image that the coaches are going to be pissed if he won't do it.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                          Yea he said it as a 21 year old rookie 3 years ago. Big fricking deal! AR isn't going to give the guy a shout out like he did if he was the type to cause any trouble in the locker.
                          Yes, and I do consider that.

                          However, I was responding to the comment that said 'Never'. Never doesn't allow that wiggle room.
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                          Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                            PS...my proof of this is that the NFL is getting to the point where most TE's are pass catchers and bad blockers()
                            Especially mentioned in draft reports on TE and RB is their ability, or lack of it, to block. Ideally, they can do it all, because defenses have one more possibility they have to account for.

                            Frankly, I prefer the old "any way I can help the team win, I'll do what I'm asked" type player - no matter how boring it is to read. It's the beginning of the end when players start telling coaches how they should be implemented. A notable exception is Charles Woodsen when he was publicly dismayed over how Capers was using him. Somehow, I imagine a constuctive talk between Chuck and Dom to be a different animal than JF and McAdoo.

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                            • #44
                              I'm with Patler and Vince on this one: this isn't a big deal at the moment but it's worth noting and keeping an eye on.

                              But here's the bigger thing that no one has mentioned: he has a home in Minneapolis. Hello? Potentially unhappy-with-his-role player looking for a big pay day and coming nearer his free agency and with ties to Minneapolis?

                              He's going to end up a Viking.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                                I'm with Patler and Vince on this one: this isn't a big deal at the moment but it's worth noting and keeping an eye on.

                                But here's the bigger thing that no one has mentioned: he has a home in Minneapolis. Hello? Potentially unhappy-with-his-role player looking for a big pay day and coming nearer his free agency and with ties to Minneapolis?

                                He's going to end up a Viking.
                                Name one ex-Packer that has ever go to the Vikings.

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