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    I really don't get why everyone thinks Kolb's worth all that and a bag of chips...

    The chatter regarding a possible trade between the Cardinals and Eagles involving Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Kevin Kolb continues to pick up steam.
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  • #2
    Well, he's not Claymaker-Proof, but he seems to be a decent QB.

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    • #3
      He's a starting-caliber NFL QB. Teams without one suck. The Cardinals have enough at other positions that adding a real QB will move them up to the category of not-sucking. A team in the NFC-west that doesn't suck is sure to be the favorite in that division, so Kolb has significant value to the Cards.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
        He's a starting-caliber NFL QB. Teams without one suck. The Cardinals have enough at other positions that adding a real QB will move them up to the category of not-sucking. A team in the NFC-west that doesn't suck is sure to be the favorite in that division, so Kolb has significant value to the Cards.
        I like this logic.
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        • #5
          How many starting caliber QBs are there in the NFL? 15? 20?
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          • #6
            32 usually since most teams have a QB start the game
            Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
              How many starting caliber QBs are there in the NFL? 15? 20?
              Hard to say, but if we ignore the backups and the draftee's (can't tell before they play), I can think of these teams that don't have a QB worth anything:
              ARI
              SF
              SEA
              WAS
              CAR
              MN
              BUF
              MIA
              CIN
              TEN
              JAC
              OAK
              DEN

              That would pin the number at 19 starting caliber QB's plus backups like Kolb and draftee's that pan out. As always, age, injury or lack of development could drop a few of the 19 off the list.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                32 usually since most teams have a QB start the game
                "Starting caliber" not "starters".

                EDIT: MS laid it out better.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                  Hard to say, but if we ignore the backups and the draftee's (can't tell before they play), I can think of these teams that don't have a QB worth anything:
                  ARI
                  SF
                  SEA
                  WAS
                  CAR
                  MN
                  BUF
                  MIA
                  CIN
                  TEN
                  JAC
                  OAK
                  DEN

                  That would pin the number at 19 starting caliber QB's plus backups like Kolb and draftee's that pan out. As always, age, injury or lack of development could drop a few of the 19 off the list.
                  You forgot

                  DA BEARS!

                  And, I'd actually pull Denver off the list. Orton isn't a world beater, but has been serviceable. Put together a good season last year, even if he didn't finish strong.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                    "Starting caliber" not "starters".

                    EDIT: MS laid it out better.
                    Well I think you all are talking about quality starters

                    On that thought why not trade Flynn for a 1st rounder.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                      You forgot

                      DA BEARS!

                      And, I'd actually pull Denver off the list. Orton isn't a world beater, but has been serviceable. Put together a good season last year, even if he didn't finish strong.
                      Except Denver's going with Tebow instead of Orton.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                        Well I think you all are talking about quality starters

                        On that thought why not trade Flynn for a 1st rounder.
                        Because Flynn is most likely better.
                        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                        • #13
                          I'd say Buffalo and Jacksonville have decent QBs. Possibly Cincy and Washington have guys who are on the slide, but still okay.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                            You forgot

                            DA BEARS!

                            And, I'd actually pull Denver off the list. Orton isn't a world beater, but has been serviceable. Put together a good season last year, even if he didn't finish strong.
                            Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                            Except Denver's going with Tebow instead of Orton.
                            As much as I hate Da Bears, I have to call Cuttler a starting-caliber QB. He was pretty good last season after Martz dropped the 'Let's get our QB killed offense'. If he didn't get injured in the NFCC they might have even taken that game.

                            Smidgeon is right, Denver thinks little enough of Orton that they will go with Tebow, who isn't starting caliber yet, and may well never be.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                              I'd say Buffalo and Jacksonville have decent QBs. Possibly Cincy and Washington have guys who are on the slide, but still okay.
                              I need to see a little more of Buffalo's QB, as the team was so bad last year. I'll give you that Garrard is serviceable enough, but Cincy's QB won't play for Cincy, and I wasn't expecting McNabb to be back in Washington.
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