How Much Cap Space Have We Cleared?

[pbmax]

I think the old $120 mil number that was publicized included the defunct tenders for Colledge, Kuhn, Hall, Jackson, Jones, Crosby, et al. I never saw an itemized listing, but that would account for the difference.

Quite possible. But did each of those guys get tendered under the 2010 rules?

[vince]

Quite possible. But did each of those guys get tendered under the 2010 rules?

Yes, there were 10 Packers that were tendered under the 2010 rule but had the requisite 4 years to be unrestricted under the new CBA. I looked it up previously but don't have a link at the moment. The $120 mil number was being tossed around without details that I could find, so I suspect that the Crypt Keeper (can't remember his name right now) got the number from the NFL office, who just looked at what was on the books at the time, which was before the new agreement came into effect.

[pbmax]

Update from PFT: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-of-thursday/

Packers ($ 11,106,000) in space, 13th highest in league. Bucs, Cheifs and Jags over $28 million.

[red]

fine pb, you were right

how in the hell do the raiders drop 15 million dollars in 1 day? and how do they even get to that point in the first place, they have no talent

[Ballboy]

Update from PFT: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-of-thursday/

Packers ($ 11,106,000) in space, 13th highest in league. Bucs, Cheifs and Jags over $28 million.

PFT said in the earlier number that Red used that PFT included the "$3,000,000" or so the teams can take from future years, they dont specify if that $3,000,000 is in the $11,106,000 or not.....that is one reason Reds number was higher.

[pbmax]

fine pb, you were right

how in the hell do the raiders drop 15 million dollars in 1 day? and how do they even get to that point in the first place, they have no talent

Its Al Davis. You should see him order and send back soup at a deli.

[pbmax]

fine pb, you were right

how in the hell do the raiders drop 15 million dollars in 1 day? and how do they even get to that point in the first place, they have no talent

PFT said in the earlier number that Red used that PFT included the "$3,000,000" or so the teams can take from future years, they dont specify if that $3,000,000 is in the $11,106,000 or not.....that is one reason Reds number was higher.

If the $3 mil is included, the the Thursday number looks plausible. But if not, it still doesn't make sense unless vince is right and the reports that the Pack were at $120 mil before camp were inaccurate.

[Fritz]

Maybe we are missing something. Thompson cleared just over 17 mil in cap space and has signed Crosby, Jones and the new ILB. Crosby alone had an $800,000 base, 1.25 roster bonus and $750,000 signing bonus which, I think puts his 2011 cap number at $2.255 mil.

Plus the rookie contracts (Sherrod has to be $1.4 mil cap number). Unless the Chillar cut put Thompson well over $17 mil of cleared space, the team cap has to be higher than $15 mil under.

That is unless the reporters first giving the Packers salary cap at slightly over $120 million forgot to count only the 51 highest players on roster.

"and the new ILB..." Who'd they sign? What new ILB?

[red]

"and the new ILB..." Who'd they sign? What new ILB?

its around here somewhere, some guy no one has ever heard of

[pbmax]

"and the new ILB..." Who'd they sign? What new ILB?

LB K.C. Asiodu

Special Teams replacement for Popp and Chillar.

[mraynrand]

Its Al Davis. You should see him order and send back soup at a deli.

BOMNF! You just got another reputation bump.

[Upnorth]

Does anyone know if cap deadlines changed in the new cba? What are the penalties?

[smuggler]

I think I know the answer to this one. If you violate the salary cap in 2011, you can't sign free agents in the offseason, prior to 2012 (other than rookies). Something like that.

[vince]

I think it was Andrew Brandt who explained that there aren't "penalties" per se. You simply can't sign anyone that takes you over the cap. The teams that are now over the cap will have the contracts disallowed at the point they reached the cap ceiling unless they make other cuts that then take them under it on the date the cap goes into effect, which they obviously would do. It might not be quite that simple, given that it's likely draftees who have been most recently signed, but that's coming from Brandt.

[KYPack]

I think it was Andrew Brandt who explained that there aren't "penalties" per se. You simply can't sign anyone that takes you over the cap. The teams that are now over the cap will have the contracts disallowed at the point they reached the cap ceiling unless they make other cuts that then take them under it on the date the cap goes into effect, which they obviously would do. It might not be quite that simple, given that it's likely draftees who have been most recently signed, but that's coming from Brandt.

Yep, that's the "process". I know this somewhat firsthand by being a Bengals fan. The Bengals "Capologist" is the owners daughter with her lap top and an excel model. Twice, in her infinite wisdom, the Bengals have had contracts kicked back by the league, so Cincy lost the player they were trying to sign up.