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    Regarding the loss of Colledge:

    Not "a tough act to follow".
    The line's "weak link" for the last two years.
    GB won "despite Colledge, not because of him."

    I think it makes a good point, that the loss of Colledge forces them to do something they have wanted to do, have tried to do but that may have been hard to do with him there.

    Seems to raise a big cautionary flag about Lang due to his failure to show improvement in his second year, which MM believes is telling.

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    There are a few positions that are tough to judge by simply watching TV, OL is one of them. We rely on not hearing his name and really highlight when our QB gets pressure. We dont see a lot of plays finish there. I have trouble quarreling with these moves, I know they have much more information than I do.
    Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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    • #3
      My money was on TJ Lang, but if he didn't do the necessary offseason work on his own, he will have no one but himself to blame. I like the way he plays. We know very little about the others, but this should be a good fight all the way through camp. I just hope one of them emerges in a big way.
      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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      • #4
        It doesn't sound like Sherrod is suited to play guard.

        The LG position could turn out to be a problem this year, and it wouldn't be the first time. Maybe McDonald is ready.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
          It doesn't sound like Sherrod is suited to play guard.

          The LG position could turn out to be a problem this year, and it wouldn't be the first time. Maybe McDonald is ready.
          Or, it could turn out to be a RT problem. Bulaga showed enough in preseason last year that I think he could play LG fine. If McDonald, Lang etc. can't cut it at LG, then maybe Sherrod, Newhouse or Lang will at RT. Its a single "problem" with many variations for how it can be solved.

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          • #6
            It is easier to find a left guard then a right tackle. That is what I don't get about the Packers coaching staff. Bulaga has proven that he can play tackle in the NFL and the talk is moving him to left guard. I find it ridiculous, TT doesn't value guards but he won't commit to his proven right tackle at tackle so mary go round starts on the offensive line again.

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            • #7
              I haven't heard that much talk about moving Bulaga to guard. I doubt it will happen. But I suppose it is an option, if for instance Sherrod can play RT as Patler suggests. unlikely.

              They need Sherrod to learn his natural position, LT, in case Clifton goes down.
              Last edited by Harlan Huckleby; 07-30-2011, 09:43 AM.

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              • #8
                McCarthy and Thompson have a history of "goofing around" with the OL, and it has cost us in the past. I don't think it is a coincidence that once they locked in a starting unit and stayed with, that the OL improved, and the offense improved.

                Hopefully we're not back to musical chairs.
                wist

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                • #9
                  Well, moving Bulaga to LG makes sense if they determine that Sherrod is a better option at RT than McDonald (or whomever) is at LG. I think it also helps transition Bulaga to LT next year. I think, long term, it will be Bulaga at LT and Sherrod at RT. Moving Bulaga to LG won't stunt his growth as a future LT. It all depends on who is more ready this year: McDonald (or possibly Lang) at LG or Sherrod at RT. I'm sure they wish they had an offseason to figure this out better.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                    McCarthy and Thompson have a history of "goofing around" with the OL, and it has cost us in the past. I don't think it is a coincidence that once they locked in a starting unit and stayed with, that the OL improved, and the offense improved.

                    Hopefully we're not back to musical chairs.
                    Wist, we won the Super Bowl, so it's time to give Thompson and the coaches some credit. I remember how concerned you were that our personnel didn't fit the 3-4 defense. It actually did fit it, and I was one who thought it would.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/126436963.html

                      Regarding the loss of Colledge:

                      Not "a tough act to follow".
                      The line's "weak link" for the last two years.
                      GB won "despite Colledge, not because of him."

                      I think it makes a good point, that the loss of Colledge forces them to do something they have wanted to do, have tried to do but that may have been hard to do with him there.

                      Seems to raise a big cautionary flag about Lang due to his failure to show improvement in his second year, which MM believes is telling.

                      Those are McGinn's quotes, not the staffs. Though I can imagine the staff feeling the same way.

                      I think Colledge was the guy most likely to end Rodgers career. It's time for somebody else. It could be painful. But how much more painful than Colledge could it be?
                      Last edited by Scott Campbell; 07-30-2011, 10:33 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                        Wist, we won the Super Bowl, ...........

                        Yeah, but we didn't win by very many points.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                          Wist, we won the Super Bowl, so it's time to give Thompson and the coaches some credit. I remember how concerned you were that our personnel didn't fit the 3-4 defense. It actually did fit it, and I was one who thought it would.
                          Now Harvey, let's not engage in revisionist history, lol...

                          I was screaming for the 3-4 long before they switched, and the majority of you thru tomatoes at me, and told he how all of our 4-3 guys were destined for the HOF.

                          Then when we did switch, most of you went on and on about what a great OLB Kampman was going to be - while I maintained that to be poo-perfect nonsense.

                          What made the 3-4 go was drafting two guys inparticular - Raji (loved the pick) and Matthews (was hopeful).

                          And I do give McCarthy and Thompson credit... but blindly following isn't in my nature
                          wist

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
                            Yeah, but we didn't win by very many points.
                            Excellent point SC!!!

                            wist

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                            • #15
                              Sherrod will end up at left tackle and Bulaga and RT I think. Just my guy instinct as I have seen little of Sherrod, but enough of Bulaga. He could make a leap this year, but his pass blocking wouldn't have passed muster on the left side.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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