Interesting discussion about OG possibilities

[Scott Campbell]

Excellent point SC!!!

I was hoping you'd get a chuckle out of that.

[bobblehead]

Sherrod will end up at left tackle and Bulaga and RT I think. Just my guy instinct as I have seen little of Sherrod, but enough of Bulaga. He could make a leap this year, but his pass blocking wouldn't have passed muster on the left side.

Body types indicate you are correct. Everything I have seen points this way.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Now Harvey, let's not engage in revisionist history, lol...

I was screaming for the 3-4 long before they switched, and the majority of you thru tomatoes at me, and told he how all of our 4-3 guys were destined for the HOF.

Then when we did switch, most of you went on and on about what a great OLB Kampman was going to be - while I maintained that to be poo-perfect nonsense.

What made the 3-4 go was drafting two guys inparticular - Raji (loved the pick) and Matthews (was hopeful).

And I do give McCarthy and Thompson credit... but blindly following isn't in my nature

We all liked Raji and Matthews, and most of us were excited for the switch to the 3-4, but you had major reservations about a lot of our personnel on defense fitting. I'll give credit on Kampman. However, if I remember correctly, you had major reservations about our corners ability in the new scheme and some of our DL. Also, you were pretty harsh on Capers early on. We need a thread bump.

[Lurker64]

Wist was extremely pessimistic in the past? Do we really need a thread to demonstrate this?

[pbmax]

Philbin states he would prefer to keep Bulaga at Right Tackle. Which is the way it should be. Let Lang, MacDonald, Newhouse, Slaughterhouse and the UDFAs all try out at LG. Then panic two weeks in and try Sherrod. Then after three weeks, then and only then, really panic and give Bulaga some snaps there is nothing else is happening.

[Lurker64]

Philbin states he would prefer to keep Bulaga at Right Tackle.

As would virtually every sensible packer fan.

[ThunderDan]

Those are McGinn's quotes, not the staffs. Though I can imagine the staff feeling the same way.

I think Colledge was the guy most likely to end Rodgers career. It's time for somebody else. It could be painful. But how much more painful than Colledge could it be?

Allen Barbre!?!

Hopefully we don't find another one of him.

[wist43]

We all liked Raji and Matthews, and most of us were excited for the switch to the 3-4, but you had major reservations about a lot of our personnel on defense fitting. I'll give credit on Kampman. However, if I remember correctly, you had major reservations about our corners ability in the new scheme and some of our DL. Also, you were pretty harsh on Capers early on. We need a thread bump.

Williams stepped up more than I thought he could, and we hit the jackpot with Shields... so you can throw Shields on to the Raji/Matthews ingredient list.

As for the DL... thought Jenkins could transition; always hated Harrell; Thompson was what I said he was, and was cut forthwith... Raji made the whole thing work though.

It took a couple of years, but they did transition quicker than I thought they could... but that was only possible b/c of Raji and Matthews. Williams and Shields complete the picture - but back when we were arguing about these things, 3 out of those 4 of those guys weren't even on the team.

As for Capers, he did an awesome job, my distrust not withstanding. Got very creative and aggressive... always thought he was a very good coach, but prior to getting the personnel he had here, he had been very vanilla and predictable IMO. In the end, last year??? did a great job.

IMO, we don't win the SB without Raji though - the number of snaps he ate up, the high level he played at all year, versatility... next to Rodgers??? team MVP IMO.

[Patler]

Those are McGinn's quotes, not the staffs. Though I can imagine the staff feeling the same way.

I think Colledge was the guy most likely to end Rodgers career. It's time for somebody else. It could be painful. But how much more painful than Colledge could it be?

Yes the quotes are McGinn's statements. Did you think I was quoting the coaches??

However, regarding Lang, McGinn makes statements that I didn't quote, and he makes them in a way to imply connections to discussions/information from coaches.

[pbmax]

Williams stepped up more than I thought he could, and we hit the jackpot with Shields... so you can throw Shields on to the Raji/Matthews ingredient list.

As for the DL... thought Jenkins could transition; always hated Harrell; Thompson was what I said he was, and was cut forthwith... Raji made the whole thing work though.

It took a couple of years, but they did transition quicker than I thought they could... but that was only possible b/c of Raji and Matthews. Williams and Shields complete the picture - but back when we were arguing about these things, 3 out of those 4 of those guys weren't even on the team.

As for Capers, he did an awesome job, my distrust not withstanding. Got very creative and aggressive... always thought he was a very good coach, but prior to getting the personnel he had here, he had been very vanilla and predictable IMO. In the end, last year??? did a great job.

IMO, we don't win the SB without Raji though - the number of snaps he ate up, the high level he played at all year, versatility... next to Rodgers??? team MVP IMO.

Didn't Pickett make this work? First as the starting nose tackle for the first season, then moving to DE when Jolly was gone?

[red]

I'm all for leaving bulaga as the starting right guard and letting sherrod learn for a season behind clifton

it shouldn't be hard to find someone just as good as colledge was

[wist43]

Didn't Pickett make this work? First as the starting nose tackle for the first season, then moving to DE when Jolly was gone?

Yes, of course Pickett was a key cog... Capers really did some interesting things with his fronts though, he certainly didn't play a conventional 3-4, that's for sure. If he does, we probably don't win a ring.

Raji was the key guy up front though... traditional 3-4, w/o all the creative fronts??? Don't think we get away with it. Give all the credit to Capers for that. Think he's going to have to be just as creative this year... I still think they're short on the weak side from the 2nd level - Walden was okay, but Zombo isn't going to change anyones game plan.

Jolly is still on the roster... read conflicting reports - keeping him/cutting him??? What's the latest???

If he's playing this year??? and Neal is back... I don't feel so bad about losing Jenkins.

[pbmax]

Yes, of course Pickett was a key cog... Capers really did some interesting things with his fronts though, he certainly didn't play a conventional 3-4, that's for sure. If he does, we probably don't win a ring.

Raji was the key guy up front though... traditional 3-4, w/o all the creative fronts??? Don't think we get away with it. Give all the credit to Capers for that. Think he's going to have to be just as creative this year... I still think they're short on the weak side from the 2nd level - Walden was okay, but Zombo isn't going to change anyones game plan.

Jolly is still on the roster... read conflicting reports - keeping him/cutting him??? What's the latest???

If he's playing this year??? and Neal is back... I don't feel so bad about losing Jenkins.

I think Zombo and Popp played strong side (left side of D, rt side of O). Walden might have flopped with Clay. But by the Super Bowl, Clay was everywhere, including the Mendenhall fumble, when he was on the D left with the TE.

Jolly is on the inactive/stupidity reserve list. Still their player, but not active.

[bobblehead]

I'll be dipped in shit....Sherrod lined up at LG today!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

wow. scouting reports are that he needs work on lower body strength.