What the heck is this?

[Rastak]

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=482701

By the way, offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski wasn't sure whether Favre would start all four exhibition games or Aaron Rodgers might get a start.

"That will be up to Ted," Jagodzinski said.

WHAT? Ted names the starters?

[woodbuck27]

Re: What the heck is this?

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=482701

By the way, offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski wasn't sure whether Favre would start all four exhibition games or Aaron Rodgers might get a start.

"That will be up to Ted," Jagodzinski said.

WHAT? Ted names the starters?

Ted Thompson (or his boss's) run the show in Green Bay. That has been obvious to me since he arrived.

I'll have the Wolves snapping at my heals for that observation.

GO PACKERS ! HOLD THE FAITH !!

[Scott Campbell]

Somebody's got some splainin to do.

I think the media should hound them mercilessly about this, and shame them out of the practice. If it's really happening that is.

[chewy-bacca]

Re: What the heck is this?

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=482701

By the way, offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski wasn't sure whether Favre would start all four exhibition games or Aaron Rodgers might get a start.

"That will be up to Ted," Jagodzinski said.

WHAT? Ted names the starters?

I found it weird too.

[GBRulz]

TT would probably be the ideal micro manager in the corporate business world

[Rastak]

TT would probably be the ideal micro manager in the corporate business world

No kidding....what the heck is McCarthy's role? Potential scapegoat?

Maybe he was interfering with Sherman last year. That was the rumor.

[Scott Campbell]

No kidding....what the heck is McCarthy's role? Potential scapegoat?

Maybe he was interfering with Sherman last year. That was the rumor.

That's why the media needs to keep on this. Make them confirm or deny it, so we can put it behind us.

[Patler]

Who makes the personnel decisions? - Ted Thompson.
Who picks the final roster? - Ted Thompson
Who decides what positions to fortify with a trade or signing? - Ted Thompson
Who evaluates players for future replacement? - Ted Thompson
Who needs to decide if Rodgers is to be Favre's replacement? - Ted Thompson

This is preseason, the time to evaluate players both for this year and for the future. If Thompson wants to see Rodgers start a game and play an extended time with the #1 offense, to help decide if Rodgers can be the Packers' future starter, he SHOULD have him start a game in preseason. He needs to know if he should be looking for another possible starter, or if he has a guy he is comfortable with.

[Rastak]

Who makes the personnel decisions? - Ted Thompson.
Who picks the final roster? - Ted Thompson
Who decides what positions to fortify with a trade or signing? - Ted Thompson
Who evaluates players for future replacement? - Ted Thompson
Who needs to decide if Rodgers is to be Favre's replacement? - Ted Thompson

This is preseason, the time to evaluate players both for this year and for the future. If Thompson wants to see Rodgers start a game and play an extended time with the #1 offense, to help decide if Rodgers can be the Packers' future starter, he SHOULD have him start a game in preseason. He needs to know if he should be looking for another possible starter, or if he has a guy he is comfortable with.

Who decides who plays any given day? THE COACH. Period. Hey, if Ted gets to decide who atarts and McCarthy is cool with that then who am I to say it's bad. I can'r imagine there are many guys who'd put up with that though.

[Deputy Nutz]

Up to Ted? I thought Ted was responsible for putting together the roster, not who played. Wow poor Mike McCarthy, he is head coach in name only.

I wonder if Thompson calls the plays from the box?

[Bretsky]

I don't think this is that big of a deal. But per Patler's post, does TT really pick the final roster ? I would think coaches would be making recommendations to TT and then the GM carries them out. It'd be interesting to be a fly in the room when a coach wants to keep one guy and the GM wants to keep another. Spose the GM always wins since they make the cuts, but it'd be interesting anyways. So I guess Patler's right.

[Patler]

Who makes the personnel decisions? - Ted Thompson.
Who picks the final roster? - Ted Thompson
Who decides what positions to fortify with a trade or signing? - Ted Thompson
Who evaluates players for future replacement? - Ted Thompson
Who needs to decide if Rodgers is to be Favre's replacement? - Ted Thompson

This is preseason, the time to evaluate players both for this year and for the future. If Thompson wants to see Rodgers start a game and play an extended time with the #1 offense, to help decide if Rodgers can be the Packers' future starter, he SHOULD have him start a game in preseason. He needs to know if he should be looking for another possible starter, or if he has a guy he is comfortable with.

Who decides who plays any given day? THE COACH. Period. Hey, if Ted gets to decide who atarts and McCarthy is cool with that then who am I to say it's bad. I can'r imagine there are many guys who'd put up with that though.

This is PRESEASON. The time to EVALUATE players. It's Thompson's job to evaluate the players and the team needs to do what is necessary for Thompson to do that as best as possible. Ultimately he has to decide if they need to find a QB for the next 10 years. If he can get a jumpstart on making that determination by having Rogers start a preseason game, that is what the Packer SHOULD do.

Should they wait until Favre retires before letting Rodgers prove himself in PRESEASON games? I don't think so. Favre isn't likely to play a lot until the final preseason game anyway. What is so awful about having Rodgers start maybe the 2nd or 3rd game so they can see how he handles it?

I would be willing to bet that most GMs dictate some of the playing time in preseason games. The GM needs to see what he needs to see to make his roster decisions.

[Patler]

I don't think this is that big of a deal. But per Patler's post, does TT really pick the final roster ? I would think coaches would be making recommendations to TT and then the GM carries them out. It'd be interesting to be a fly in the room when a coach wants to keep one guy and the GM wants to keep another. Spose the GM always wins since they make the cuts, but it'd be interesting anyways. So I guess Patler's right.

Wolf said the final decision was his, but he always consulted with the coaches. He said it wasn't smart for a GM to force a player on a coach if the coach really didn't want him. But there have to be a lot of decisions that are close. I suspect it will be easy for the coach to be happy with different combinations. DT is probably one of those situations, and ultimately TT will probably decide how many and which ones to keep. Do you keep all six (unlikely), or do you keep 4 or 5? Do you keep 4, 5 or 6 WRs? The coaches would likely be happy with all 12 players on their roster. Ultmately the GM makes that decision.

But this is even different than that. Rodgers will be on the team, that's not even a question. TT needs to make a decision during this year whether or not he thinks Rodgers can take over whenever Favre decides to retire. He should go into the next offseason with a belief that Rodgers is or isn't the guy. If he decides that Rodgers isn't, TT needs to be looking for the right player. If Favre decides to retire, do we really want TT to be unsure of the direction he wants to go in replacing him? I suspect TT will learn alot from the preseason games this year regarding Rodgers future. If TT wants him to start one game in preseason to aid in that evaluation, so what?

[Scott Campbell]

I agree with Patler, but would still like them to define their working relationship to the media. I think that's the only way all this speculation will go away.

[Rastak]

Who makes the personnel decisions? - Ted Thompson.
Who picks the final roster? - Ted Thompson
Who decides what positions to fortify with a trade or signing? - Ted Thompson
Who evaluates players for future replacement? - Ted Thompson
Who needs to decide if Rodgers is to be Favre's replacement? - Ted Thompson

This is preseason, the time to evaluate players both for this year and for the future. If Thompson wants to see Rodgers start a game and play an extended time with the #1 offense, to help decide if Rodgers can be the Packers' future starter, he SHOULD have him start a game in preseason. He needs to know if he should be looking for another possible starter, or if he has a guy he is comfortable with.

Who decides who plays any given day? THE COACH. Period. Hey, if Ted gets to decide who atarts and McCarthy is cool with that then who am I to say it's bad. I can'r imagine there are many guys who'd put up with that though.

This is PRESEASON. The time to EVALUATE players. It's Thompson's job to evaluate the players and the team needs to do what is necessary for Thompson to do that as best as possible. Ultimately he has to decide if they need to find a QB for the next 10 years. If he can get a jumpstart on making that determination by having Rogers start a preseason game, that is what the Packer SHOULD do.

Should they wait until Favre retires before letting Rodgers prove himself in PRESEASON games? I don't think so. Favre isn't likely to play a lot until the final preseason game anyway. What is so awful about having Rodgers start maybe the 2nd or 3rd game so they can see how he handles it?

I would be willing to bet that most GMs dictate some of the playing time in preseason games. The GM needs to see what he needs to see to make his roster decisions.

On your last point, I'd be very very surprised if this were the case.. TT certainly has final roster calls and I'm sure McCarthy has a huge input in those decisions. If a GM and a coach are on the same page, and I assume they are, then this isn't a huge deal...but I'll say it again, NcCarthy should be deciding who plays in pre, regular and god forbid post season.