Defensive line depth

[Upnorth]

I like Wilson as a back up, and have no problem with him steping in for awhile, but Greene won't be able to keep up for long if there are any long term injuries. Wynn is Wynn and seems replaceable. Long story short we need another backup besides Wilson if there are long term injuries. I doubt they would look at Jolly, but I would like to see him around.

[VermontPackFan]

If you look across the roster, I think the Packers could keep rolling with the loss of any player, with the possible exception of the defensive line. The team could win with Matt Flynn. Clay Matthews loss would make the team weaker, but they have guys who can play. I see the drop off from #3 to #4 in the defensive line rotation to be a real cliff. Which of those backups would you be comfortable playing 60 snaps as a starter? Green lacks endurance. Wynn is iffy, IMO. Maybe Wilson.

A long term injury to Pickett, Raji or Neal would be devestating to our D. Asking Greene to play more than his situational 15 snaps per game would not be beneficial to anyone. The jury is still out on Wilson and I dont think Wynn has a future in the NFL. But obviously the coaches know more than I do, trust in the backups currently on the roster and decided not to bring Justin Harrell into camp.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Green was the de facto starter for the second half of last year and will do just fine when they put three DL on the field .

I wonder how many snaps Greene played last year in any game.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Wilson is a good football player all around. Wynn is a liability against the run, but he won't play in base no matter who gets hurt.

I thought Wilson was pretty decent last year, and he was just a rookie. Not sure why he hasn't done well in camp so far.

[pbmax]

I thought Wilson was pretty decent last year, and he was just a rookie. Not sure why he hasn't done well in camp so far.

Mainly that he is the same guy, and his pass rush has not improved. Its mostly expectations at this point, I don't think he has fallen off the chart yet.

Remember, writers take what coaches say literally when trying to sound knowledgeable. So the improvement from Year 1 to Year 2 is treated like gospel for the purposes of critique.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I doubt they would look at Jolly, but I would like to see him around.

I hope they would take Jolly back in heartbeat. His drug problem seemed damn odd and juvenile, not hard core. Easy to drug test him.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I hope they would take Jolly back in heartbeat. His drug problem seemed damn odd and juvenile, not hard core. Easy to drug test him.

Nice edit. It may have been odd and juvenile, but he did it twice. That spells trouble.

[Patler]

It may have been odd and juvenile, but he did it twice. That spells trouble.

I don't know, kids don't always learn from their first mistake. It sometimes takes two for the lesson to sink in.

This whole Jolly issue burns me a little. It seems he would have been treated less harshly if he beat up some guy or his girlfriend; or if he had a pattern of forcing himself on girls; or if he ran a dog fighting ring and went to prison; than he is being treated for drinking a few bottles of cough syrup.

He has already been suspended for a year due to issues relating to an arrest for which the charges have been dropped. He has undergone inpatient treatment. I don't know if he has rehabilitated himself or not, but it would seem that his best chance to turn his life around is if the NFL gives him a chance to do it. It's an easy thing to toss him out again if it turns out that he hasn't changed.

[hoosier]

I wonder how many snaps Greene played last year in any game.

As far as I can tell he played about 65-70 snaps in 9 games. The real question is, on plays when they had three DL on the field, what % of the time was Green one of the three?

[Harlan Huckleby]

As far as I can tell he played about 65-70 snaps in 9 games.

I hope you washed your hands after reaching deep into your anus to pull that out.

[wist43]

I think Jolly is done... wasn't it just a couple of months ago that he got busted again - after he was kind of given a pass on the previous bust???

As a player, I want him back... damn good player.

[Freak Out]

I don't know, kids don't always learn from their first mistake. It sometimes takes two for the lesson to sink in.

This whole Jolly issue burns me a little. It seems he would have been treated less harshly if he beat up some guy or his girlfriend; or if he had a pattern of forcing himself on girls; or if he ran a dog fighting ring and went to prison; than he is being treated for drinking a few bottles of cough syrup.

He has already been suspended for a year due to issues relating to an arrest for which the charges have been dropped. He has undergone inpatient treatment. I don't know if he has rehabilitated himself or not, but it would seem that his best chance to turn his life around is if the NFL gives him a chance to do it. It's an easy thing to toss him out again if it turns out that he hasn't changed.

I have to agree with the sage little dog.....he's done his time so lets get the guy back to work and off the streets. Could he slide again..? Sure....but odds are he straightens out and flies right.

[cheesner]

I have to agree with the sage little dog.....he's done his time so lets get the guy back to work and off the streets. Could he slide again..? Sure....but odds are he straightens out and flies right.

Jolly:

1. Questionable character - possibly lacks will power
2. Big guy
3. 2 years (ish) off from a structured workout/diet program

My bet is that he is way out of shape and will never be able to play football again.

[vince]

Wilson has reportedly had a couple good practices as of late. He started slow, but he seems to be getting back into football/hitting shape after the layoff.

[Harlan Huckleby]

3. 2 years (ish) off from a structured workout/diet program

My bet is that he is way out of shape and will never be able to play football again.

That's a good point. But it's a seperate issue.

It's like this: if Jolly was on the Vikings or Bears, I would agree that he ought to be banned from football for another year. But the fact that he is a Packer cries out for leniency.