Defensive line depth

[pbmax]

Are you trying to drive Driver out of town?

There is no magic formula. Ya, generally it works to replace expensive, declining veterans with up-and-comers. In the case of Jenkins, it appears they could have shored-up a team weakness at reasonable cost/commitment. It appears to have been a big mistake.

Driver, at least, is still a starter. And even in a bad year, makes starts in almost every game.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Jenkins would be far more valuable to this team than Driver.

[pbmax]

Jenkins would be far more valuable to this team than Driver.

Name a play he made in the post season. Or make a case he was more valuable than Green in the last 6 games of the season. Jenkins stood out as the best pass rusher of a poor group of pass rushing DTs. Replacing him is a lower bar than you think.

[mraynrand]

Jenkins would be far more valuable to this team than Driver.

The whole injury aspect throws this into total speculation. Both totally healthy all year: I agree with you. But either one or both could easily miss significant time due to injury (so could any players you pick, I suppose). There is an element of injury guesswork here, that will always make these predictions very difficult. If Jenkins gets hurt early ad often, people will say "See I told you so" and if he stays healthy and productive people will say "See, I told you so." We'll just have to wait and see if it's Jenkins supporters or detractors who get to jeer the others. But with injuries, no one will conceded anything anyway, because Jenkins - if he gets injured for Philly, would obviously have stayed healthy in Green Bay, that is, if you're a Jenkins fan!

[mraynrand]

Name a play he made in the post season. Or make a case he was more valuable than Green in the last 6 games of the season. Jenkins stood out as the best pass rusher of a poor group of pass rushing DTs. Replacing him is a lower bar than you think.

question is whether there are guys on the roster capable of getting over that lower bar!

[pbmax]

question is whether there are guys on the roster capable of getting over that lower bar!

Its hard to argue the depth for pass rush is better - the blue dog has got a point there. But we are set for run stuffing wide bodies. And IF Neal can stay healthy and get backup help by an improved Wynn (who was playing far better even at the end of last season) then I think the answer might be yes, we can get over that low bar. Go team!

[Fritz]

I don't think Howard Green can get over any bar unless it's lying on the ground.

[Yoop]

maybe not. But there is some evidence to the contrary.

we know Jenkins was not happy he didn't get extended last year, he gripped about it openly, that tells us he felt he was worth more than Ted offered, when he didn't get those top money offers he was probably relieved Philly called so he wouldn't have to come back.

[Yoop]

Its hard to argue the depth for pass rush is better - the blue dog has got a point there. But we are set for run stuffing wide bodies. And IF Neal can stay healthy and get backup help by an improved Wynn (who was playing far better even at the end of last season) then I think the answer might be yes, we can get over that low bar. Go team!

hope your right, we could see a second level trade though, would Ted gamble? dont know, finding a pass rushing DT shouldn't be that hard, right? lol. I think where SOL. for one of those.

[Joemailman]

I don't think Howard Green can get over any bar unless it's lying on the ground.

Howard made that bar irrelevant.

[Patler]

Name a play he made in the post season. Or make a case he was more valuable than Green in the last 6 games of the season. Jenkins stood out as the best pass rusher of a poor group of pass rushing DTs. Replacing him is a lower bar than you think.

pb makes a very valid point that many seem to overlook.

[mraynrand]

pb makes a very valid point that many seem to overlook.

What point are you talking about?

[mraynrand]

I don't think Howard Green can get over any bar unless it's lying on the ground.

yeah but you should see him do the limbo

[Harlan Huckleby]

Name a play he made in the post season. Or make a case he was more valuable than Green in the last 6 games of the season. Jenkins stood out as the best pass rusher of a poor group of pass rushing DTs. Replacing him is a lower bar than you think.

I remember Jenkins getting good pressure, a real boost when he returned from injury. As I recall, he was full speed about the NFC championship game, got better each game.

I just see Jenkins as a significantly better player than you do. He plays the run well btw, gets off blocks. I suppose he is a little light in the loafers for 3-4 DE. The Packer writers rate him highly. See McGinn's latest chat, comments from Jason Wilde, Pete Dougherty chat.

[Harlan Huckleby]

pb makes a very valid point that many seem to overlook.

pass rushing is a premium