Love him or hate him, this is pretty cool:http://www.breitbart.tv/shannon-shar...uction-speech/
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Jim Kelley saying he never considered himself a tough guy because whenever people would say that he would look at his son Hunter who was battling being born with a death sentence.Originally posted by mission View PostGreat speech last night. One of the best ever.
No speech will ever make me cry after that one.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Had Sterling not been hurt him and Favre would be considered to be either the best or 2nd best QB to WR connection ever and GB would have a few more titlesTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I never got to see Sterling play. Or rather, I was too young for it to sink in. But in researching points of views on WRs throughout the years since, I've seen his stats for those seven years. And Shannon is right. They're unbelievable.
I know that it's not supposed to be a Hall of Stats, but I would guess that Sterling's seven years (including his rookie year) compare favorably to any other WRs' seven consecutive year stretch. Anybody have nominations of WRs with better stretches?No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Originally posted by smuggler View PostSterling was a better WR than Irvin, and Irvin is in the HoF (yeah, yeah, rings).
Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are, 'It might have been."
Completely agree; I think Sharpe was a solid level above Irvin
Truth be told I'm no sure I've seen a better all around WR except for Jerry Rice
perhaps a few young guys playing now can get to that level.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Agreed. Having watched both of them play, I find it difficult to understand when people say anything different.Originally posted by smuggler View PostSterling was a better WR than Irvin, and Irvin is in the HoF (yeah, yeah, rings).
Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are, 'It might have been."
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Sterling dominated and abused defenses like nothing I've ever seen before. Rice had a better career. Irvin had a better career. But were they better than Sterling in his prime?
Man, that's a tough one.
If you go out on YouTube and watch Finley's highlights from 2009, you'll see a receiver that completely has his way with opposing defenses. He pretty much abused everyone that tried to cover him. That's what Sterling was able to do.
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That is exaggerating slightly, no? I mean Babe Ruth is in the HOF because of his numbers too. Sayers did things no one else had done combined before. 22 tounchdowns in a season from running, receiving, punt return and kickoff return. Six touchdowns in a game and an average above 5.0 ypc for his career despite the last two years being a shell of his former self due to injuries. The amazing thing about Sayers is that he really did his damage in five seasons despite playing seven and in those five seasons led the league in total yards from scrimmage 3 times. He was a RB at a time when teams in teams actually lived what we regard as bloviating and tried to establish to run and to stop the run as priorities 1 and 1A.Originally posted by gbgary View Postgale sayers got in on stats alone and seven years.
At RB in the sixties it was Brown, Taylor and Sayers. Top three for a decade. No arguments except career length.
Sharpe has two problems. One is era; unlike Sayers he played in an era that hand changed the rules for his position (and offense in general) and that had a huge impact on his numbers. By the time that settled, his overall numbers look pedestrian despite three incredible seasons.
Should also note that he led the league in catches during a great 1989 season.From Deadspin today:
And in 1992, he had one of the greatest seasons any receiver has ever had. He won receiving's triple crown — Jerry Rice and Steve Smith are the only others to do so in the Super Bowl era — by catching 108 passes for 1,461 yards and 13 TDs. Some perspective: Art Monk's 106 catches in 1984 had been an NFL record for eight years until then. A year later, Sterling broke his own mark by catching 112 passes, and the year after that — in his final season — his 18 TD receptions still ranks tied for third all-time.
So not only do you need to triangulate his position in relation to those who came before him (like Monk) but you need to see what happened after. Before he ever came up for a vote, his most remarkable numbers were surpassed by Bruce, Carter and Rice. There are way too many WRs in this group. And many of them played much longer. Right now Cris Carter, Tim Brown and Andre Reed cannot get past each other. By the time that logjam clears, he will at the veterans committee. Which might be his best shot.Last edited by pbmax; 08-08-2011, 06:08 PM.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Nice pb. You're probably right about Sterling. Campbell said it best though. He was better than all those guys you mentioned except obviously Rice.Originally posted by pbmax View PostThat is exaggerating slightly, no? I mean Babe Ruth is in the HOF because of his numbers too. Sayers did things no one else had done combined before. 22 tounchdowns in a season from running, receiving, punt return and kickoff return. Six touchdowns in a game and an average above 5.0 ypc for his career despite the last two years being a shell of his former self due to injuries. The amazing thing about Sayers is that he really did his damage in five seasons despite playing seven and in those five seasons led the league in total yards from scrimmage 3 times. He was a RB at a time when teams in teams actually lived what we regard as bloviating and tried to establish to run and to stop the run as priorities 1 and 1A.
At RB in the sixties it was Brown, Taylor and Sayers. Top three for a decade. No arguments except career length.
Sharpe has two problems. One is era; unlike Sayers he played in an era that hand changed the rules for his position (and offense in general) and that had a huge impact on his numbers. By the time that settled, his overall numbers look pedestrian despite three incredible seasons.
Should also note that he led the league in catches during a great 1989 season.
So not only do you need to triangulate his position in relation to those who came before him (like Monk) but you need to see what happened after. Before he ever came up for a vote, his most remarkable numbers were surpassed by Bruce, Carter and Rice. There are way too many WRs in this group. And many of them played much longer. Right now Cris Carter, Tim Brown and Andre Reed cannot get past each other. By the time that logjam clears, he will at the veterans committee. Which might be his best shot.Last edited by vince; 08-08-2011, 06:33 PM.
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That is why a veterans committee of people who actually played against him is probably his best shot.Originally posted by vince View PostNice pb. You're probably right about Sterling. Campbell said it best though. He was better than all those guys you mentioned except obviously Rice.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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