packer involved in miami scandal

[red]

well, if you haven't heard about this story yeat you must be living with your head in your ass. this is making all other college sports scandals look like childs play

our own sam shields is one of the 72 miami hurricane players that has been named as excepting "illegal" gifts

keep in mind before you read my rant that this shouldn't effect shields at all

now as a huge hurricanes fan, ahem.........

FUCK THAT MOTHER FUCKING BULLSHIT, YOU GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. you're fooling yourself if you think every single BCS team doesn't also do the same damn thing. now miami is probably gonna be banned from ever playing in a bowl game again, be stripped of all its scholorships, and they might even separate the whole miami area from the rest of the country and push it out into the ocean.

you start to read these story and they make this players out to be the worst animals in the world. when you read the laundry list of players and what they recieved, you quickly realize that most of them received food and drinks at this dudes houses or yacht.

keep in mind, the school, conference and the NCAA are raking in millions from these players

now brace yourself for this

sam shields he accepted a 42 inch TV. he also got free drinks and VIP access at a bar one time. he also went to the guys house once for more food and drinks. HOW DARE HE EAT AND DRINK.

thats it for him, and that's it for most of the players. most received a few thousand dollars worth of shit over the 4 years they were there. while everyone else made billions

the NCAA is a complete joke at this point and needs to just go away

[Fritz]

Well, I ain't no Miami fan, so I don't agree that all major college teams do exactly what Miami did. I think the major, heavy hitters - the Oklahomas, the Alabamas, the USC's, the Ohio States, the Texases...I think they do it to a greater degree than other teams. I do believe that the vast majority cheat, but to different levels of excess. So I don't feel Miami is somehow deserving of pity. At all.

But I do agree with you that the NCAA honchos, the university mucky-mucks, the media, especially television (I'm thinking ESPN and Fox and the Big Ten Network and all those people) are getting filthy rich off these players, who get - what, a 42" television and some rolls with hot hookers? It's a joke if anyone thinks any of this division one stuff is remotely "amateur" athletics. It's a money-making machine.

My solution is to pay the players like it's a developmental league for the NFL (cuz it is), which should be funded by both the schools and the NFL. And don't make the players go to classes unless they want to, cuz that pretense that they're there for an education is mostly a joke (though not always). You can still have the Miami Hurricanes, the Michigan Wolverines, they can still play in college stadiums, all of that can stay the same. But quit pretending it's something it's not.

[SkinBasket]

I hope they ban them from football forever.

[Joemailman]

I hope they ban them from football forever.

They just might. The duration of this points to involvement at every level of the university. It wasn't just a couple coaches looking the other way.

[Upnorth]

I never have understood why they crack down so hard on these hand outs to the players. They have special skills, they have earned some compensation.

[red]

Well, I ain't no Miami fan, so I don't agree that all major college teams do exactly what Miami did. I think the major, heavy hitters - the Oklahomas, the Alabamas, the USC's, the Ohio States, the Texases...I think they do it to a greater degree than other teams. I do believe that the vast majority cheat, but to different levels of excess. So I don't feel Miami is somehow deserving of pity. At all.

But I do agree with you that the NCAA honchos, the university mucky-mucks, the media, especially television (I'm thinking ESPN and Fox and the Big Ten Network and all those people) are getting filthy rich off these players, who get - what, a 42" television and some rolls with hot hookers? It's a joke if anyone thinks any of this division one stuff is remotely "amateur" athletics. It's a money-making machine.

My solution is to pay the players like it's a developmental league for the NFL (cuz it is), which should be funded by both the schools and the NFL. And don't make the players go to classes unless they want to, cuz that pretense that they're there for an education is mostly a joke (though not always). You can still have the Miami Hurricanes, the Michigan Wolverines, they can still play in college stadiums, all of that can stay the same. But quit pretending it's something it's not.

oh i have no doubt fritz, that the canes have done it bigger and better then everyone else

i'm not saying everyone is doing it like that, but i am saying almost every division 1 football team has players that are excepting gifts. the only difference is that some teams have idiots that talk after paying

[Freak Out]

I never have understood why they crack down so hard on these hand outs to the players. They have special skills, they have earned some compensation.

They are getting compensated.....it's called a scholarship. Most of them include room and board...it's not Chez Panisse but they get big and strong eating it.

[red]

They are getting compensated.....it's called a scholarship. Most of them include room and board...it's not Chez Panisse but they get big and strong eating it.

yeah, but that's all they get. no spending money or fun money

and i don't think they are allowed to take jobs because that would be accepting money. in a case like vine wilfork who has both parents die while he's in college, that would suck big time. no money for funerals, or even for gas to get to the funerals, and if anyone else gives him $20 bucks to get there he would be breaking the rules

the current system sucks. its modern day slavery

[Joemailman]

September 17: Ohio State at Miami. Will they bill it as The Probation Bowl?

[Bretsky]

Screw Miami the the Blowhard Canes. If they'd quit cheating every dam year the legit WI Badgers would kick their ass !! No wonder why we can't win a title. We don't pay rent and board for Reggie Bush or buy the players TV'S

[Fritz]

They are getting compensated.....it's called a scholarship. Most of them include room and board...it's not Chez Panisse but they get big and strong eating it.

Really, Freak? They get a scholarship, when the people in charge - the big-wigs - are making millions and millions. Chris Berman,
Mel Kiper, NCAA honchos, University big-wigs - they are driving Lexuses and Acuras and whatever, and living in their damn gated communities, because they've scammed the system - and the kids get fucking scholarships? For an education most of them don't really want nearly as much as they want to get to the NFL??? Sorry, but I am with Red on this one. That "they're getting a scholarship" argument is older and more useless than my dead grandmother's panties.

[Upnorth]

If a booster wants to give them a cushy 'job' why not?
If a resturant owner wants to give his team / favorite player free meal why not?
These players have special talents, they deserve compensation accordingly. students who receive scholastic scholarships don't have job restrictions. In university I received a scholarship and the person who gave it became a mentor and we would meet every month. This included a nice meal. Why is that 'fair'?

[Iron Mike]

I blame Jimmy Johnson.

[Brandon494]

Screw Miami the the Blowhard Canes. If they'd quit cheating every dam year the legit WI Badgers would kick their ass !! No wonder why we can't win a title. We don't pay rent and board for Reggie Bush or buy the players TV'S

Shit I guarntee they get paid just like every other college besides BYU.

[Freak Out]

Wah wah wah...cry me a river. Yes...the kids get scholarships. The cheapest of which is how much year? So because Kiper and Berman makes a fortune talking about NCAA football the student athlete should get paid? Tell me about that salary structure please. Give them a free ride....food and financial assistance as needed.

As usual what was once tradition and honor driven is now driven by greed.