Supplemental Draft - 8-29-2011

[Fritz]

If I remember correctly, Mike Wahle was a supplemental draft pick. Wolf gave up a second rounder for him. I think the Pack also drafted another academy guy - Ronnie McAda? - in the supplemental draft. I think. But I don't think TT has participated in this at all.

[Lurker64]

But I don't think TT has participated in this at all.

We don't know whether he's bid for a player in the supplemental draft, but he's certainly never been awarded one. It's entirely possible that he's bid on guys and just been outbid or the other teams had a higher priority according to the lottery.

[pbmax]

The problem is that labor law is generally written in such a way that management and labor can bind those parties who are prospective employees, but are not yet employed. If you were to make it so that the NFL and the NFLPA can't collectively make rules regarding prospective employees and the conditions of their employment, you would generally gut labor law in this country, so that's not going to happen.

The NFL was only concerned about the lawsuit from college players while the NFLPA was decertified and the NFL was not operating under the protection of a CBA. With a CBA in place, those lawsuits go nowhere. The precedent of Clarett v. NFL is pretty clear, for grievances about the NFL's treatment of prospective employees, that's not anti-trust law that's labor-law.

I don't think finding that a minimum age above 18 should not be subject to collective bargaining would require the gutting of collective bargaining, but I could be wrong.

I think the weakness of the case is physical development. 18 year olds are far different than 21 year olds. However, with access to full time, year round professional conditioning, I think the pro 18 yo will outpace his college counterpart.

[Lurker64]

I don't think finding that a minimum age above 18 should not be subject to collective bargaining would require the gutting of collective bargaining, but I could be wrong.

The "The NFL can't impose age or 'years out of high school'" case was already tried, and the NFL won. If someone wants to challenge the NFL here, they need to find something else to sue them about. An identical case will just have the NFL banging the table about Clarett v. NFL and how this was already decided.

[pbmax]

The "The NFL can't impose age or 'years out of high school'" case was already tried, and the NFL won. If someone wants to challenge the NFL here, they need to find something else to sue them about. An identical case will just have the NFL banging the table about Clarett v. NFL and how this was already decided.

Would not be the first case to have a different outcome the second or third time around. There is money to be had there, I would not be surprised if someone else attempted it.

Didn't the players win the first round in that case then lost in Appellate Courts? I seem to remember everyone hand-wringing over the end of 3 years out of high school.

[Lurker64]

Would not be the first case to have a different outcome the second or third time around. There is money to be had there, I would not be surprised if someone else attempted it.

Yes, they lost in the district but won on the appellate level. Considering that the person who wrote the final decision for Clarett v. NFL in the first place is on the Supreme Court now (Justice Sotomayor), odds are good that the NFL will keep winning this case for the foreseeable future.

[Guiness]

Terrelle Pryor was the only player selected in the supplemental draft, the other 5 or 6 that were in it were not selected.

Oakland took him with a 3rd rounder. I wonder if anyone else bid anywhere near that?

Results of his Wonderlific score just came out, and it looks like he got a 7(!) the first time around!!! Scored in the 20's the second time, so hard to figure out what happened.

[hoosier]

Results of his Wonderlific score just came out, and it looks like he got a 7(!) the first time around!!! Scored in the 20's the second time, so hard to figure out what happened.

He probably got some extra tuturing at THE ohio state university.

[smuggler]

He probably just Christmas tree'd it the first time around and then his agent made him take it seriously the second time.

[Joemailman]

The first time he had Vince Young tutoring him.

[pbmax]

McGinn Tweeted that the score of 7 helped explain his bad decisions on and off the field. Not sure if someone then asked if they also explained explain Marino (13) and Leaf and J Russell (20 something).

[Guiness]

Ya, a comment like that was an asshole move, and more than a little condescending. Not to mention the obvious, not necessarily applicable.

The Wonderlific is about quick thinking - being able to come up with the right answer without going into a lot of analysis. It tells nothing about personality and lifestyle!

Genius's can be pricks and serial killers, dim people can be charismatic, and have strong morals.

[smuggler]

Yeah McGinn was off-base on that one.

[mraynrand]

From this thread I learned that Bob McGinn is a serial killer

[Guiness]

From this thread I learned that Bob McGinn is a serial killer

Really? Maybe he's dim....