Official Packers Vs. Cardinals Game Day Thread

[rbaloha1]

Bush still sucks

Yup. Only good for blitzing from the slot. Scarey when in the game.

[rbaloha1]

Lee Sucks more

Maybe. Second round pedigree is what keeps him around. Other more aware and instinctive secondary players still on the roster.

[pbmax]

Agreed. Stop the flip flopping. Newhouse should compete with Lang at lg and Sherrod backs up Clifton. Lang does get over powered at times but is pretty steady.

Newhouse is less of a guard than Sherrod. Size-wise, it looks like a fit, but he doesn't play like a guard.

[rbaloha1]

Newhouse is less of a guard than Sherrod. Size-wise, it looks like a fit, but he doesn't play like a guard.

Why not give it a shot? Sherrod does not play like a guard. Newhouse reminds of ex 49er and Packer Guy Mcintire (sp?) -- body wise and athletically.

[Patler]

Agreed. Stop the flip flopping. Newhouse should compete with Lang at lg and Sherrod backs up Clifton. Lang does get over powered at times but is pretty steady.

They tried Newhouse at guard last year and decided against continuing.

[Fritz]

By all accounts Newhouse is not a guard, but he's playing pretty well at LT. If he can train at RT, he'll be valuable. Sherrod, if yesterday's game is a good measure of where he really is right now, could be a game day inactive.

I think they've got to keep Harrell now or he's gone. He's also next year's 2nd string QB once Flynn goes. But they don't want to trade Flynn because we all know how precarious the QB position can be.

I think Quinn Johnson is as good as gone.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Harrell looks OK, get a high draft pick for Flynn

IF Rodgers goes down and Harrell loses a couple games, that just means the PAckers will be seated lower in the playoffs like last year.

[Fritz]

They barely squeaked into the playoffs with Rodgers missing only a game and a half. No, I don't think Harrell's ready to be trusted with the keys to the building quite yet.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If Harrell can't play, cut him and replace him with a vet.
He has taken strides this year, I doubt he will be that much better next year.

I don't see the point in drafting young QBs, going through the growing pains, and then losing them to another team without compensation.
If you draft a QB to develop, trade them in the last year of their contract if they are any good. At least you get a year or two of their services as a backup, and you get a higher draft pick.

[digitaldean]

Got some free tickets from my boss and saw last night's game.

My opinion FWIW...
-Sherrod got bitch-slapped silly at guard.
-Ryan Grant still doesn't have the pop to hit the hole as fast as is needed. He can run hard, but he missed a wide open hole last night that could've sprung him for more yds.
-Shields looked shaky last night in coverage and tackling.
-Hawk didn't play well in the tackling area either.
-That pass to Jennings TD was a thing of beauty. ARod can sure thread it.
-Borel sunk any chances to make the team.
-Chastin West is going to make the WR corps final spot VERY tough to decide. He'll be snagged off the p-squad if he gets dumped there again.

[ThunderDan]

Just got back from GB.

Here were my observations from the game:

1. Lambeau was alive last night for a preseason game. Announced attendance 67,000+, high for a preseason game. Section 128 was packed.
2. Arod to Jennings TD was a thing of beauty, no way can that be stopped.
3. The starting D has been below average so far.
4. Fitzgerald is the best WR in the league handsdown. That catch he made was out of this world.
5. Lang is the starting LG.
6. Finley is going to catch 70+ balls for 1,200+ yards this year. He is almost uncoverable down the middle. Only a great play by Joey Porter could stop Finley on 1 occasion. On DDs catch for 20+ yards, Finley had a TD right down the middle if ARod had looked. I watched Finley almost exclusively when he was in the game, he got off the line of scrimmage no problem even when the Cardinals put a LB on him to slow his release.
7. The Packers are going to have at least 3 if not 4 WRs taken by other teams after the last cutdown. I wish there was a way to get something for them but I am guessing teams will wait.
8. Watching a game at Lambeau rocks. So glad we didn't lose any pre-season games.

[red]

If Harrell can't play, cut him and replace him with a vet.
He has taken strides this year, I doubt he will be that much better next year.

I don't see the point in drafting young QBs, going through the growing pains, and then losing them to another team without compensation.
If you draft a QB to develop, trade them in the last year of their contract if they are any good. At least you get a year or two of their services as a backup, and you get a higher draft pick.

absolutely blue dog, couldn't agree more

[MJZiggy]

absolutely blue dog, couldn't agree more

How much of the fact that he hasn't taken strides has to do with the fact that there was not quarterback school this year? If it were a normal year and he had received the normal amount of developmental work as another year, I'd be right there with you, but the little jury in my head is still out on this one for a little bit yet.

[vince]

If Harrell can't play, cut him and replace him with a vet.
He has taken strides this year, I doubt he will be that much better next year.

I don't see the point in drafting young QBs, going through the growing pains, and then losing them to another team without compensation.
If you draft a QB to develop, trade them in the last year of their contract if they are any good. At least you get a year or two of their services as a backup, and you get a higher draft pick.

That is diametrically opposed to the philosophy of team building that Thompson and McCarthy have implemented with so much success. If they have to pick up a vet QB off the street that has no experience in working with McCarthy in his offense, they will be seriously desperate. It's all about the quarterback and no one is better at developing them in-house out of nothing than McCarthy and Clements.

Getting Flynn's services for 3 years and a 3rd or 4th from a 7th, and getting Harrell for absolutely nothing are not bad deals.

[mission]

How much of the fact that he hasn't taken strides has to do with the fact that there was not quarterback school this year? If it were a normal year and he had received the normal amount of developmental work as another year, I'd be right there with you, but the little jury in my head is still out on this one for a little bit yet.

He has taken strides.

I had to read it twice to make sure it wasn't talking about Justin. Graham looks more than solid despite some easily correctable mechanics in the pocket. Even Flynn has looked shaky and unsure in the pocket with some pressure.