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  • #31
    Originally posted by Patler View Post
    The reason he isn't ready doesn't really matter. I wasn't indicting his future, just debating his present.On the sack against Rodgers, I would have preferred seeing him grab a jersey, shoving the guy from behind, or doing anything rather than exposing Rodgers to an unhindered hit from a rushing DL like he did.
    Right, but you said he seems much farther behind than Bulaga was last year. That's because he hasn't had the OTA's/mini camps Bulaga had. He would look totally different had the lockout not occured.

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    • #32
      I expect that MM will reshuffle his line to get the 5 best players on the field. So I guess Sherrod is the first one off the bench. I would be better if Newhouse can prove competent at RT, maybe you are right, but not clear so far.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Brando19 View Post
        Right, but you said he seems much farther behind than Bulaga was last year. That's because he hasn't had the OTA's/mini camps Bulaga had. He would look totally different had the lockout not occured.
        I don't disagree; but, again, it doesn't matter one bit why he is behind where Bulaga was. All that matters is whether he will or will not be able to be counted on this year. If not, it kills a roster spot that he will use up.

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        • #34
          OL seems to be a spot that needs time to mature normally. Compund that with the short offseason and I think we can understand Sherrod's struggles. Unfortunately it looks like he just wastes a spot till midseason.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by vince View Post
            I remember when you said the cards were stacked against Lang in the guard competition.
            yes, but the cards proved to be a house of cards. I agree that the Packers very much want to find a role for Sherrod, and will prefer him against Newhouse at LT.
            I do think Lang is the backup RT just because the dropoff to Newhouse or Sherrod at that spot is too deep. But it is hard to predict how these guys will do in next couple weeks. its been a roller coaster with Newhouse & Sherrod.

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            • #36
              The guy has Ryan Clady upside and we got him in the bottom of round one, that doesn't happen with guys who are going to come in and ball right away. Most teams need to press their 1st round OL into service right away but we have the luxury of sitting. I hope he doesn't contribute this year because that will have meant that Clifton had another solid year. If something terrible happened and we needed him? My guess is that he'd be invisible by the end of the year, at least in pass pro. There is no shame in being the 6th or 7th best OL on this team.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                The guy has Ryan Clady upside and we got him in the bottom of round one, that doesn't happen with guys who are going to come in and ball right away. Most teams need to press their 1st round OL into service right away but we have the luxury of sitting. I hope he doesn't contribute this year because that will have meant that Clifton had another solid year. If something terrible happened and we needed him? My guess is that he'd be invisible by the end of the year, at least in pass pro. There is no shame in being the 6th or 7th best OL on this team.
                There is an over reaction to Sherrod. The dude is a left tackle. His mistakes with pad level are easily correctable with reps.

                Next year Sherrod takes over for Cliffy. 10 year+ veteran with multiple pro bowls.

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                • #38
                  McGinn's article today raises concerns about Sherrod.
                  McGinn's comments:

                  He played as poorly as any lineman has in a long time. (Does McGinn remember Allen Barbre?)
                  Graded him as "negative" on 40% of his plays this week.
                  Said he was equally bad at guard and at tackle.
                  Worse this week than last week.
                  Excuses of no off season program don't matter, only performance matters at this point.

                  I hope the kid can show some improvement the next two weeks. If not, it doesn't look like the Packers can go into the season counting on him to contribute if he is needed.

                  On the other hand, McGinn said Newhouse played much better at RT, and didn't look uncomfortable at all, unlike last week.

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                  • #39
                    Going off what I saw of him in the AZ game only, there is no way we want him on the field at this point. He might contribute later in the year but right now he is a liability.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                      The other thing I saw that pissed me was Lang at LT. Lang gave up an ugly edge rush sack. I thought why? Lang ain't gonna be the starting LG and back-up LT is he? Any work at LT by him is a waste. Sherrod is a back-up T, let's find the back-up at the other positions and get to work.
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      I think you will see that from here on.

                      Rumor has it that Lang has practiced some at every position, including center. They are probably trying to determine if it might make sense to play musical chairs if an O-linman goes down.
                      KY; Looks like they will be settling into their positions this week
                      From MM's comments after practice:


                      TomSilverstein:
                      TJ Lang will run with the 1s this week and play with 1s against INdianapolis. He will run exclusively at guard and not play left tackle. [via Twitter]
                      That said, apparently Lang took a few snaps at center today.

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                      • #41
                        TomSilverstein: Derek Sherrod has a knee sprain. Both he and Cobb may come back this week. B.Jones has a knee sprain and is day to day. [via Twitter]
                        Was he playing with an injury Friday night? If he was, could possibly explain some of his problems Friday night.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                          Agreed 100%. I saw him on the sideline after he gave up an ugly sack at LT. He looked like the lone survivor in a 3 car wreck. He was flat stunned.

                          The kid had his awful rookie PS game. Time to move on. Nutz, watch that kid Genus and tell us what you think.
                          Of course I deleted the game about an hour ago. Wish I had read this first, but I will watch him next game, or NFL net might replay the game again.
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                          • #43
                            Well, any missed practice time is going to set this young man back. So in answer to the thread question, it's looking slightly less likely that the kid will be able to contribute much, at least early in the year.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #44
                              Keep him at LT, he'll be fine. Unlike most teams who draft a OT in the first round we don't have to rush him.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                                Of course I deleted the game about an hour ago. Wish I had read this first, but I will watch him next game, or NFL net might replay the game again.
                                I just deleted it mesself. Now I wanna watch Zombo, Can't believe he played with a broken scapula.

                                Watch Genus, Bobble, he's interesting. He was a center in college and supposedly is great at shotgun snaps. He's ugly, but a real scrapper type.

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