Former Packers around the league

[Packgator]

Jacksonville cut Tony Moll.

[superfan]

Fired up Madden 08 last week, which includes player stats from the 06 season and starting rosters for 07. I was amazed at the amount of roster turnover in 4-5 years. This was the Madden roster going into the 13-3 season. Only 12 players are still on the roster:

QB Rodgers
WR Driver, Jennings, Jones
OT Clifton
C Wells
DT Pickett
OLB Hawk
CB Woodson, Bush
S Collins
K Crosby

2 of the 3 backups on the roster then are still backups on the roster now (Jones, Bush). Rodgers was the only backup then who is now a starter.

Guys that are gone and where they are now:

QB
Brett Favre - Retired (probably).
Ingle Martin - Out of football. Last year 2008 (KC). Played in a career total of 2 games with no passing stats, 2 rushes for -5 yards.

WR
Robert Ferguson - Out of football. Last year 2008 (MN).
Ruvell Martin - Unsigned. Released by BUF in 2011.
David Clowney - Unsigned. Released by CAR in 2011.

HB
Vernand Morency - Out of football. Last year 2007 (GB).
Brandon Jackson - Cleveland, on IR.
Noah Herron - Out of football. Last year 2008 (TB). Ran for 106 yards in 1 game, 167 yards in his other 22 games combined.
DeShawn Wynn - Out of football. Last year 2010 (NO).

FB
Brandon Miree - Out of football. Last year 2006 (GB).

TE
Bubba Franks - Retired 2008 (NYJ).
Donald Lee - Unsigned. Released by PHI in 2011.
Clark Harris - Long snapper with CIN.

OL
Mark Tauscher- Retired 2010 (GB).
Junius Coston - Out of football. Last year 2008 (DET).
Tony Moll - Unsigned. Released by JAC in 2011.
Daryn Colledge - Starting in Arizona.
Jason Spitz - Backup in JAC.
Allen Barbre - Unsigned. Released by MIA in 2011.
Tony Palmer - Out of football. Last year 2007 (GB).
Tyson Walter - Out of football. Last year 2006 (GB).

DL
Aaron Kampman - Starting in JAC.
Kabeer Gbaja Biamila - Retired 2008 (GB).
Corey Williams - Starting in DET.
Cullen Jenkins - Starting in PHI.
Justin Harrell - Out of football. Last year 2010 (GB).
Colin Cole - Unsigned. Released by SEA in 2011.
Jason Hunter - Backup in DEN.

LB
Nick Barnett - Starting in BUF.
Brady Poppinga - Backup in STL.
Abdul Hodge - Out of football. Last year 2010 (CAR).
Korey Hall - Starting FB in NO.
Tracy White - Backup in NE.

CB
Al Harris - Backup in STL.
Patrick Dendy - Out of football. Last year 2007 (CAR).
Will Blackmon - Out of football. Last year 2010 (NYG).

S
Marquand Manuel - Out of football. Last year 2009 (DET).
Aaron Rouse - Out of football. Last year 2009 (NYG).
Marviel Underwood - Out of football. Last year 2007 (DEN).
Tyrone Culver - Backup in MIA.

K
Dave Rayner - Unsigned. Released by DAL in 2007.

P
Jon Ryan - Starting in SEA.


Coupe takeaways:

* the current roster looks much stronger top to bottom than this roster, and this ended up being a good team (with help from later additions such as Ryan Grant).
* about half are still in the league in some capacity. Many more defensive players are still playing than offensive players.
* quite a few of the younger bench players were out of the league after 4 years, which is pretty consistent with the general conception of the league.
* few former Packers in the last several years have excelled with a team other than GB.

[KYPack]

Fired up Madden 08 last week, which includes player stats from the 06 season and starting rosters for 07. I was amazed at the amount of roster turnover in 4-5 years. This was the Madden roster going into the 13-3 season. Only 12 players are still on the roster:

QB Rodgers
WR Driver, Jennings, Jones
OT Clifton
C Wells
DT Pickett
OLB Hawk
CB Woodson, Bush
S Collins
K Crosby

2 of the 3 backups on the roster then are still backups on the roster now (Jones, Bush). Rodgers was the only backup then who is now a starter.

Guys that are gone and where they are now:

QB
Brett Favre - Retired (probably).
Ingle Martin - Out of football. Last year 2008 (KC). Played in a career total of 2 games with no passing stats, 2 rushes for -5 yards.

WR
Robert Ferguson - Out of football. Last year 2008 (MN).
Ruvell Martin - Unsigned. Released by BUF in 2011.
David Clowney - Unsigned. Released by CAR in 2011.

HB
Vernand Morency - Out of football. Last year 2007 (GB).
Brandon Jackson - Cleveland, on IR.
Noah Herron - Out of football. Last year 2008 (TB). Ran for 106 yards in 1 game, 167 yards in his other 22 games combined.
DeShawn Wynn - Out of football. Last year 2010 (NO).

FB
Brandon Miree - Out of football. Last year 2006 (GB).

TE
Bubba Franks - Retired 2008 (NYJ).
Donald Lee - Unsigned. Released by PHI in 2011.
Clark Harris - Long snapper with CIN.

OL
Mark Tauscher- Retired 2010 (GB).
Junius Coston - Out of football. Last year 2008 (DET).
Tony Moll - Unsigned. Released by JAC in 2011.
Daryn Colledge - Starting in Arizona.
Jason Spitz - Backup in JAC.
Allen Barbre - Unsigned. Released by MIA in 2011.
Tony Palmer - Out of football. Last year 2007 (GB).
Tyson Walter - Out of football. Last year 2006 (GB).

DL
Aaron Kampman - Starting in JAC.
Kabeer Gbaja Biamila - Retired 2008 (GB).
Corey Williams - Starting in DET.
Cullen Jenkins - Starting in PHI.
Justin Harrell - Out of football. Last year 2010 (GB).
Colin Cole - Unsigned. Released by SEA in 2011.
Jason Hunter - Backup in DEN.

LB
Nick Barnett - Starting in BUF.
Brady Poppinga - Backup in STL.
Abdul Hodge - Out of football. Last year 2010 (CAR).
Korey Hall - Starting FB in NO.
Tracy White - Backup in NE.

CB
Al Harris - Backup in STL.
Patrick Dendy - Out of football. Last year 2007 (CAR).
Will Blackmon - Out of football. Last year 2010 (NYG).

S
Marquand Manuel - Out of football. Last year 2009 (DET).
Aaron Rouse - Out of football. Last year 2009 (NYG).
Marviel Underwood - Out of football. Last year 2007 (DEN).
Tyrone Culver - Backup in MIA.

K
Dave Rayner - Unsigned. Released by DAL in 2007.

P
Jon Ryan - Starting in SEA.


Coupe takeaways:

* the current roster looks much stronger top to bottom than this roster, and this ended up being a good team (with help from later additions such as Ryan Grant).
* about half are still in the league in some capacity. Many more defensive players are still playing than offensive players.
* quite a few of the younger bench players were out of the league after 4 years, which is pretty consistent with the general conception of the league.
* few former Packers in the last several years have excelled with a team other than GB.

Got an addendum to Dave Rayner. He hasn't been out of football since 2007, he's joining Ben Agajanian as the biggest kicking gypsy in NFL history. The GBP were his second NFL team, Indy was the first.

After the Pack cut Rayner, keeping Mason Crosby, these are some of Rayner's travels. Only some, he's tried out for several teams. This is just the the list of rosters he's been on:

Kansas City Chiefs (2007)
San Diego Chargers (2007)
Miami Dolphins (2008)*
Detroit Lions (2008)*
Cincinnati Bengals (2008)
Washington Redskins (2009)*
Cincinnati Bengals (2010)
Detroit Lions (2010
Dallas Cowboys (2011)–present)
*Offseason and/or practice squad member only

Dave was cut from Dallas just last week after missing two field goals in the Cowboys last pre-season game. Rayner has a pretty good stint with us, he kicked a 54 yard field goal. That tied him for the second longest field goal in Packer history (Crosby has the longest at 56 yds).

Why does Rayner do it and why do teams look at him? He has one of the strongest legs ever seen. He holds the "totally unofficial record" for longest hang time ever on a kick-off. By most accounts, no one around has a stronger leg. He also chokes and goes thru strange slumps, which is why he gets his mail in so many different places.

[vince]

It is something to look at the roster from 4 years ago. Thanks for that post Superfan. The core of the team has grown significantly with the additions of Matthews, Raji, Bishop, Tramon Williams, Sitton, Bulaga, Starks, Finley, Nelson, Kuhn, etc.

There were a few really good players from that era, including Favre, Harris, Kampman, Barnett, Tausch, to go with the others, but when you look at the list, I don't see one guy who "got away." Maybe John Ryan.

[Partial]

Did Tauscher officially retire? Did I just miss this? What a career for a great Packer and Badger.

[KYPack]

Did Tauscher officially retire? Did I just miss this? What a career for a great Packer and Badger.

I don't "know" this, but I think Tausch will hang around this season. The Pack is razor thin at back-up OL. If there was an injury at a spot, an alternative would be putting Tausch on the roster and doing the "shuffle". I think Mark is waiting and seeing if something like that comes up.

That well maybe bullshit, but I think Mark can still play and wouldn't mind doing just that if the situation came up.

[Guiness]

It is something to look at the roster from 4 years ago. Thanks for that post Superfan. The core of the team has grown significantly with the additions of Matthews, Raji, Bishop, Tramon Williams, Sitton, Bulaga, Starks, Finley, Nelson, Kuhn, etc.

There were a few really good players from that era, including Favre, Harris, Kampman, Barnett, Tausch, to go with the others, but when you look at the list, I don't see one guy who "got away." Maybe John Ryan.

That's exactly what I was thinking re: the one that got away.

John Ryan is probably the best player that we should have kept, but didn't (I know is as good or better, but it's not like we had him and knew it at the time). It says a lot about the front office when the 'one that got away' is a punter, as opposed, say, Houston, who released Tramon Williams!

Corey Williams and Kampman are also players who are still play at a high level in this league. Kampman was a scheme decision, but C. Williams is someone else we've missed, especially with Harell not panning out.

Great post Superfan. I'd say good research, but you admitted that the research amounted to firing up Madden lol.
BTW I found out my gf had never seen Tombstone! Got to dust off the VHS and re-watche it - it aged well, still a great movie. "You're a daisy if you do!"

[Guiness]

Not around the league, but a couple of notable former Packers in the UFL
Ahmad Carroll is playing for the Virginia Destroyers. Man, what are they thinking? I wonder if that guy can really play at all?
Brian Brohm is playing for the Las Vegas Locomotives

[MJZiggy]

Wow, Brohm went down fast...

[KYPack]

Saw Breno Giacomino playing for the SeaChickies on Sunday.

Also saw Matt Giordano playing for somebody and he actually made a couple good plays.

Two Wops, both with jobs.

Supposedly, Buffalo never talked to Brohm after they cut him and he made no attempt to talk to any coaches or Buffalo management about his situation.

[pbmax]

Jamon Meredith was signed by the Steelers.

[Guiness]

Saw Breno Giacomino playing for the SeaChickies on Sunday.

Also saw Matt Giordano playing for somebody and he actually made a couple good plays.

Two Wops, both with jobs.

Supposedly, Buffalo never talked to Brohm after they cut him and he made no attempt to talk to any coaches or Buffalo management about his situation.

What do you mean his 'situation'? You just mean after he got cut, he just packed up and left?

Amazing fall for that guy, from a potential top 5 pick in '07, to a late second rounder in '08 to practice squad/third string. What happened? Did he just not have it?

He could have made himself a lot of money if he'd come out in '07. Jamarcus and Brady Quinn were the two top QB picks, he may have actually gone in the first round and got himself a decent contract. Best QB in that draft is looking like Kolb, then ??? there are luminaries like Trent Edwards, Tyler Thigpen and Drew Stanton.

[Fritz]

For all the crap Thompson has taken about the Justin Harrell pick, it seems clear that Brian Brohm was his biggest whiff. Harrell - when he played - showed flashes of what made him a first round pick. Brohm showed that, well, Thompson made a poor, poor pick.

[Packgator]

Donald Lee signed with the Bengals today.

[Packgator]

Also saw Matt Giordano playing for somebody and he actually made a couple good plays.

Giordano is with the Raiders.