Packer players compare Lang to Colledge

[bobblehead]

getting pretty crowded here on the anti colledge bandwagon. I remember some pretty lonely days on this bandwagon. Funny how things change....

NOt necessarily. I remember me and PB defending college and feeling pretty lonely at the time. One of us has a shoddy memory. I still defend him for what he is. A serviceable starter who is always available, but you constantly try and replace. Not living up to his draft status, but he probably will start for 10 years in this league. A ten year starter in the NFL...is that really so awful?

[RashanGary]

I think what Raji's saying is Colledge didn't have confidence in his ability to move anyone. He said he finessed and cut rather than mauled. It sounds like Lang is a little stronger. He has confidence in his ability to create movement.

That was the context of "confidence" that I understood.

[Upnorth]

I liked College, not great, just passable, which was better than at the time. Now we have better players, and I hope he has a nice career. I feel the same about all the packers players, keep them until some one better comes along.

[Fritz]

I think what Raji's saying is Colledge didn't have confidence in his ability to move anyone. He said he finessed and cut rather than mauled. It sounds like Lang is a little stronger. He has confidence in his ability to create movement.

That was the context of "confidence" that I understood.

It's clear, any way you interpret it, that they think Lang is - or will be - far better.

[KYPack]

Colledge was Colledge and he's gone, now.

Hey BJ, shut up, Bro.

This kind of shit can't help, it'll only hurt in the long run.

[vince]

Colledge was Colledge and he's gone, now.

Hey BJ, shut up, Bro.

This kind of shit can't help, it'll only hurt in the long run.

Good point. I bet someone said the same thing to them if they didn't say it to themselves by now. They were tricked into it by McGinn the old vet shyster.

[vince]

Just kiddin' about the shyster part. I thought that was a great article actually. McGinn is a crafty old reporter, and I mean old in a good way.

I especially liked reading this about Lang,

"(Colledge) plays the game to what he knows how to do, and that's use his technique. He uses his head to kind of make up for the stuff he maybe lacks physically. T.J. is kind of a bang-bang, knock 'em back guy. He has good feet also."

Defensive end Ryan Pickett called Colledge a "finesse, position" guard. He said Lang "has got a lot of dirtiness, which you want an offensive lineman to have. Like a lot of fight."

[smuggler]

keep them until some one better comes along.

Poor Peprah. Q.Q

[MadScientist]

I liked College, not great, just passable, which was better than at the time. Now we have better players, and I hope he has a nice career. I feel the same about all the packers players, keep them until some one better comes along.

As Ron Wolf said to Brian Noble:

You’re a good player, but not a great player. You’re only going to be around until I can find someone better to replace you with.

Lang sounds tougher. I hope he turns out to be better. We won't know until September.

[mraynrand]

Colledge was Colledge and he's gone, now.

Hey BJ, shut up, Bro.

This kind of shit can't help, it'll only hurt in the long run.

That's some serious billboard material for when the Packers and Cards meet in the playoffs. Colledge will really bring it then!

[ThunderDan]

NOt necessarily. I remember me and PB defending college and feeling pretty lonely at the time. One of us has a shoddy memory. I still defend him for what he is. A serviceable starter who is always available, but you constantly try and replace. Not living up to his draft status, but he probably will start for 10 years in this league. A ten year starter in the NFL...is that really so awful?

I was defending Colledge also. I said he isn't Probowl caliber but he is a serviceable LG and until they had something better they should keep him. I knew after 2010 he was gone strictly for financial reasons. Hopefully the next starter is an improvement but DC was good enough for the Packers to win a Superbowl with.

[Yoop]

Colledge=Sherrod, both LT's in college, both tried at G when they arrived, the difference is a younger Clifton when Colledge got here versus a need now at LT since Cliffy is about to retire, reverse these two guy's and the time frame, and it's about the same thing, Colledge would have been a better tackle than he's ever been at G, however we needed G's when he got here, and I'am sure thats what Colledge is pissed about and has a resentment over, who wouldn't be in his shoes, add that to Colledge reworking his skillset as best he could to play G, not practicing at T, then being thrown to the wolfs (jarrod Allen) and failing miserably, easy to see his confidense was shaken, not so much sticking up for Colledge, just understanding his mindset on this a little.

[retailguy]

Colledge=Sherrod, both LT's in college, both tried at G when they arrived, the difference is a younger Clifton when Colledge got here versus a need now at LT since Cliffy is about to retire, reverse these two guy's and the time frame, and it's about the same thing, Colledge would have been a better tackle than he's ever been at G, however we needed G's when he got here, and I'am sure thats what Colledge is pissed about and has a resentment over, who wouldn't be in his shoes, add that to Colledge reworking his skillset as best he could to play G, not practicing at T, then being thrown to the wolfs (jarrod Allen) and failing miserably, easy to see his confidense was shaken, not so much sticking up for Colledge, just understanding his mindset on this a little.

I used to think this way too. Then they inserted him at LT in the 2009 season when Cliffy was hurt. It was an abject disaster, and if I recall, Lang wound up filling in there much better than Colledge did.

We were both wrong Yoop. Maybe if he'd have been there as a rookie, but no longer. He sucks as a tackle. As a guard too, but that's a different issue. Good luck to Kolb, he's gonna need it.

[Yoop]

I used to think this way too. Then they inserted him at LT in the 2009 season when Cliffy was hurt. It was an abject disaster, and if I recall, Lang wound up filling in there much better than Colledge did.

We were both wrong Yoop. Maybe if he'd have been there as a rookie, but no longer. He sucks as a tackle. As a guard too, but that's a different issue. Good luck to Kolb, he's gonna need it.

agreed Retail, and basically that was my point, if he would have stayed at LT and allowed to groom there he may have ended up a decent LT, who knows for sure, but he was not drafted to play there, he was OK filling in for Cliffy on several occasions, but he lost that skillset over time concentrating more at G, where he was never destined to be real good one, team needs dictated Colledges career, they do with all players though, Colledge just could not make the switch.

same with Bulaga, I think he could be a starter at LT, make more money, however team needs have him at RT, and he will still be a good one, when in all actuality he could probably be a top 5 LG in this league with some time at it, course thats just my opinion though.

[RashanGary]

It sounds like Colledge was an undersized, under strength guard who got by on finesse and technique. I also read between the lines that he wasn't particularly liked. Wells is another guy who doesn't move people. He gets by on smarts and technique. But everyone likes Wells. He's a natural leader. Raji can destroy him, but I'll bet he never talks shit about him the way he did Colledge. Wells is also incredibly consistent where Colledge had lapses once or twice a game.

It seems like Lang is a stronger guy and everyone seems to like him a little more.

Whatever happened exactly, nobody knows, but Colledge is a decent guard, making decent money from a coach who knows OL play (Wisenhunt) Point is, he didn't suck, he's just not as good as what we have and TT talks about lockerroom guys. . . Seems like DC wasn't one of those. There might be a few reasons he's gone, but he'll be a 10 year starter in the NFL. Not bad for him.