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  • #31
    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    Green is also part of the picture. Its concievable that MM sees Starks-Green as his most effective 1-2 punch.

    I don't know.
    Me neither but I think I have a pretty good idea just based on preseason stats. If you compare usage during the first to PS games, it looks very unlikely that Starks-Green is the team's immediate future. So far Grant's stats (8 carries, 36 yds, 4.4 ypc) are what you would expect of a starter. Green, meanwhile, has struggled (6 carries, 8 yards, 1.3) in limited time. Not to make too much of preseason stats, but I would think that if they were grooming Green for immediate action as #2 back he would seeing more carries right now.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
      Green is also part of the picture. Its concievable that MM sees Starks-Green as his most effective 1-2 punch.

      I don't know.
      Its certainly the future. Also, Nance looks much more decisive and fluid.

      Releasing/trading Grant clears up some cap space given the pending Sitton and Finley contracts.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by hoosier View Post
        I've seen several references in the JSO and GBPG TC blogs about Grant looking less quick or less explosive since he came back from the injury. But it's still early, and it is hard for me to imagine that anyone could know with certainty that his "slowness" (if it in fact exists) is really a sign of declining ability and not just rustiness or a natural part of the recovery process. I woudn't be at all surprised to see Starks overtake and supplant Grant as #1 back. But I would be shocked to see them cut Grant to keep Nance, who has never shown much of anything in his time on the field.
        I think I read somewhere that Grant lost some muscle in his legs (maybe another PR poster mentioned this?). If that's the case, I don't think Grant's going anywhere, but it may take a while to get back to where he was. And I don't think he'll be a 1000 yard rusher again due to opportunity.
        No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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        • #34
          McGinn thinks Grant looks like his old self:

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          • #35
            how many minutes would it take the Lions to sign Grant if he released?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
              how many minutes would it take the Lions to sign Grant if he released?
              HOw many minutes would it take for Grant to get offers from 1/3rd of the league if released? Biggest knock on him is the injury. If he is in a platoon now, will he last the year? I think so, and I hope so as he is very reliable to churn out first downs without fumbling when required.
              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

              George Orwell

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              • #37
                Given their recent history of tampering, probably less than 5 good ones.

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                • #38
                  So I am big believer in Grants ability. Assuming this story is true and Grant is cut, do you put faith in Starks/green carrying the load for the season ? I think that senario would hold back the pack's true o potential for a second year . Who would that person be?
                  Last edited by Upnorth; 08-24-2011, 02:02 PM. Reason: stupiduity
                  All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                  George Orwell

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                  • #39
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                    Source: Packers' Grant Takes Pay Cut

                    By Adam Caplan
                    August 24, 2011

                    The Green Bay Packers have restructured the contract of veteran RB Ryan Grant’s contract, thesidelineview.com has learned.

                    Grant, who was to earn $3.5 million in base salary for 2011, had his base salary cut to $2.5 million earlier this month, a source confirmed.

                    Grant, who is on the final year of his contract, had a $1 million roster bonus due on the 15th day of the new league year on his previous deal plus $750,000 in total per game roster bonuses ($46,875/game). Grant has the same exact amount ($1.75 million) in bonuses due in the new contract, but it’s not known if the bonus structure is the same or if the roster bonus has been paid or if the date has been pushed back.

                    Grant’s salary cap number has been trimmed from $5.65 million to roughly $3.87 million.

                    RB Dimitri Nance, according to a local report, could push Grant off the roster this season.

                    Should Grant be released, second-year RB James Starks figures to have the best chance to start, with Nance and rookie Alex Green also pushing for carries and snaps.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by vince View Post
                      http://thesidelineview.com/columns/c...-takes-pay-cut

                      Source: Packers' Grant Takes Pay Cut
                      Tough to follow that.
                      I assume his minimum cap number went down, but since they're saying that the total bonus due is the same, his cap number will remain at $5.65 if he plays the year? Ok, maybe $1million less, since his base was cut. That lowering wasn't rolled into a potential bonus somewhere?
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                      Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                      • #41
                        It looks like Grant agreed to restructure his contract and take a $1 million pay cut before camp opened up, presumably in order to keep his spot on the roster, which makes Bobblehead look like a mad genius. It also would seem to dramatically reduce his chance of being cut now I'd think.

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                        • #42
                          This is not the same team nor the same situation of four or five years ago. Back then, IF Nance were, say, an unheralded but promising rook (from all descriptions he's more of a plugger) five years ago, then Thompson might have been tempted to cut the vet and keep the cheaper kid with lots of upside.

                          First, Nance does not seem to have much upside. He is what he is.

                          And this is a team that may still be reaching its peak, coming off a SB win. For the same reason they might've traded a Matt Flynn type four or five years ago but won't now, they will not cut Ryan Grant. Thompson knows the team is right there and he's not going to sacrifice an opportunity this year by trading a Flynn or cutting a Grant.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            First, Nance does not seem to have much upside. He is what he is.
                            QFT. That's all that counts
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #44
                              Sounds like Grant took $1M less, but the contract is now fully guaranteed. It almost assuredly means he'll be with the team. If the Packers were thinking about cutting him, I doubt they would have agreed to fully guarantee almost $3M.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • #45
                                All this offense needs is about 80-100 yards per game rushing. We have the horses for that. This all makes sense.
                                Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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