Ryan Grant on the bubble!?

[Fritz]

Sheep, your comment reminds me of what seemed a typical rushing yards statistical line from the Holmgren days; you'd have Edgar Bennett or Dorsey Levens with 15 to 17carries for maybe 60-80 yards.

[bobblehead]

who cuts a 1000 yard RB? no one unless they have to, I dont think we are in that group, could Grant be traded before the trade deadline? possible, we are in better shape this year at RB than we where last year even without Grant, so it is a possibility.
Starks looks good, has nice vision, explodes into the secondary, and has improved at picking up his blocking assignments, Green will have to improve on his blocking, but seems to have all the other skillsets needed, this is a good tandem, Grant could become expendable.
But I look for us to carry all 3 this year, and Grant will be gone next year.

LT? Teams cut RB's when they think they are losing a step. My prediction was based on grant being 29, coming off injury and being due a roster bonus (which incidentally was reported as 1.75 million, but was actually 1 million). TT is smarter than I in these things and he paid the mil. At that point I figure Grant is a lock. Now I just read Grant took a million dollar pay cut to gaurantee his 2011 salary. That too changes things. 750k is dependent on him being gameday active...or injury insurance. Given all this, I stand by what I posted above. Grant is pretty much a lock at this point. I hope he is still a 1k rusher and hasn't lost a step.

[bobblehead]

The thing about making bold predictions is that nobody remembers when you are wrong, but you can gloat about that one time you were right for years. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? No.

I talk more about whiffing on my prediction of Allen Babre turning into a good guard than I do about my predictions that came true (Like when I said TT and MM would push Favre out after the 2007 season when Favre was pissing on MM).

[bobblehead]

bobblehead has serious issues with Grant hate. He's been hurt one time in 4 years with us. He was a very good back before he was hurt. If he is 90% of what he was in 2009, he's clearly the starter.

You are a moron. I do not hate Grant, I rather like him. He was hurt so much that he never got drafted. Yes, he strung together 2 solid uninjured seasons, and part of one before that. Those are the facts.

I also said that it might be in the teams best interest to cut one of my top 5 all time favorite players in DD. You have serious issues with reading comprehension and assuming that anyone that disagrees with you about a players worth "hates" that player. I simply think Grant is overpaid. Nothing more or less.

[bobblehead]

Yes, I expect that is exactly what is going on here. The Ryan Grant Fan Club will remember, tho.

On an unrelated note, I just remember a great get-rich-quick idea I had. You start, say, 512 stock-picker newsletters. Half of them say "buy", the other half say "sell". You fold the half that are wrong. Well, after 8 rounds of this charade, you are the hot, brilliant financial whiz whose newsletter has been right-on a phenomenal 8 times in a row! This is how bobblehead got his start.

Really? Personal attacks on the guy who talks more about his predictions that miss than the ones that hit? I would say you are better than this but......

[bobblehead]

It looks like Grant agreed to restructure his contract and take a $1 million pay cut before camp opened up, presumably in order to keep his spot on the roster, which makes Bobblehead look like a mad genius. It also would seem to dramatically reduce his chance of being cut now I'd think.

NO, I'm no genius. Just some idiot who shotguns wild ideas with no evidence to support them then crows when he gets one right....cock a doodle do.

PS...the only reason I made such a prediction was HATE and it had nothing to do with me thinking he was overpaid...which TT and Grant himself seemed to agree with.

[RashanGary]

bobble, you're one of the fun posters here because you're willing to say what your gut is and you admit when you're wrong. What fun is it when everyone sits around saying, "I don't have an opinion or feel for anything."

Big deal, you said Grant would be gone. I honestly thought there was no chance. The fact that he had a salary adjustment shows there was concern.


I know everyone was licking Starks jock after the Cleveland game, and I like Starks a lot too, but Starks ran two times behind Sitton and Bulaga while Grant ran a couple times behind Sherrod and Clifton. Grant ran hard against Cleveland. He looked strong. Looked good.

He's going to be fine this year. Him and Starks are going to be a nice duo for us and once Alex Green gets the playbook and blocking down, he could be a big late season weapon for us.

[bobblehead]

bobble, you're one of the fun posters here because you're willing to say what your gut is and you admit when you're wrong. What fun is it when everyone sits around saying, "I don't have an opinion or feel for anything."

Big deal, you said Grant would be gone. I honestly thought there was no chance. The fact that he had a salary adjustment shows there was concern.


I know everyone was licking Starks jock after the Cleveland game, and I like Starks a lot too, but Starks ran two times behind Sitton and Bulaga while Grant ran a couple times behind Sherrod and Clifton. Grant ran hard against Cleveland. He looked strong. Looked good.

He's going to be fine this year. Him and Starks are going to be a nice duo for us and once Alex Green gets the playbook and blocking down, he could be a big late season weapon for us.

Thanks JH...and for the record I remember the LT you said would go much higher than 3rd round or whatever it was that everyone gave you crap about. Everybody gave you shit, then he went 25? overall was it? Yea, you made a bold prediction, backed it with why you thought so, and were right.

[Scott Campbell]

I wonder if Driver might consider taking a pay cut.

[mraynrand]

What fun is it when everyone sits around saying, "I don't have an opinion or feel for anything."

We just have too many of those types here on this forum.

[sheepshead]

Sheep, your comment reminds me of what seemed a typical rushing yards statistical line from the Holmgren days; you'd have Edgar Bennett or Dorsey Levens with 15 to 17carries for maybe 60-80 yards.

Similar offense, its true. Just enough to keep 'em honest.

[rbaloha1]

I wonder if Driver might consider taking a pay cut.

HE should as well.

[Yoop]

LT? Teams cut RB's when they think they are losing a step. My prediction was based on grant being 29, coming off injury and being due a roster bonus (which incidentally was reported as 1.75 million, but was actually 1 million). TT is smarter than I in these things and he paid the mil. At that point I figure Grant is a lock. Now I just read Grant took a million dollar pay cut to gaurantee his 2011 salary. That too changes things. 750k is dependent on him being gameday active...or injury insurance. Given all this, I stand by what I posted above. Grant is pretty much a lock at this point. I hope he is still a 1k rusher and hasn't lost a step.

true, but it remains to be seen if Grant has lost a step, imo he's a low mileage RB at 29 yrs. old, there will be teams in need of a back like Grant before the trade dead line, there is every year, we where one last year, so It could be possible locking Grant to a more avordable contract would make him easier to trade, so if Mac has faith in Starks, Green, and Nance, we could see Grant traded at that time, just a guess on my part.

[retailguy]

Sounds like Grant took $1M less, but the contract is now fully guaranteed. It almost assuredly means he'll be with the team. If the Packers were thinking about cutting him, I doubt they would have agreed to fully guarantee almost $3M.

This is the way all the contract issues have been handled with Grant. When he was exclusive rights and held out, thompson's reply was, "OK we'll pay you what you want, but it's kinda "pay for performance"" with a lot of strange incentives for being active, healthy and productive. This time he appears to have said, if you're healthy and productive, I'll pay you "X", but if you aren't then I won't.

Grant took the deal, just like he did last time. It seems to work out for both of them, so we'll see... I think if Nance is really "showing" what it appears they may keep 4 rb's and then just keep Kuhn.

Does anyone know if Nance plays ST?

[Smidgeon]

We just have too many of those types here on this forum.

I'd respond, but I really don't care either way...