Is the Packer roster special?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Not one of those teams have a more talented roster than the Packers IMO.

homer


Somebody in this thread mentioned the Packer SB of 90's, or maybe I just imagined they did. That team was way more stacked than this one. The Ron Wolfe era was totally different. You had th Cowboys building a team of allstars with 2-deep talent.

psssst. Parity.

There is more parity now than even 5 years ago, not sure why, but its pretty obvious. We think of the Bears as being below the Packers talent wise, but they are just a hair worse.

Parity has made coaching nearly everything, well, along with QB play. Salary cap means they have to get young players on the field contributing immediately, and starting in one year. There is parity in talent, the difference is mostly in organization.

[Joemailman]

I agree, and chemistry comes down to coaching.

Not quite. I think chemistry comes down to the GM and HC having the same idea about the kind of players they want on the team. I get the sense that Thompson and McCarthy are in lockstep in this regard. I think that's a big part of the reason why TT hasn't done more in free agency. Talented players from other teams may not necessarily be a good fit chemistry wise.

[Upnorth]

On the o and d sides our only concern is depth, yet on a year we were decimated by injuries we win a superbowl. Our depth has talent. I think our hole is special teams, and the league helped us out in one phase of special teams. The saints front 7 are suspect, the pats secondary, the jets qb, the falcons d, the colts d, the steelers o, all the big teams have concerns on o or d, with us its special teams. I think that makes us special!

[King Friday]

In today's NFL, it is impossible to build a "special" team. The key is a "special" QB, and we clearly have one with Rodgers.

[Upnorth]

I think skinbaskets avatar is special.

[vince]

homer

Somebody in this thread mentioned the Packer SB of 90's, or maybe I just imagined they did. That team was way more stacked than this one. The Ron Wolfe era was totally different. You had th Cowboys building a team of allstars with 2-deep talent.

psssst. Parity.

There is more parity now than even 5 years ago, not sure why, but its pretty obvious. We think of the Bears as being below the Packers talent wise, but they are just a hair worse.

Parity has made coaching nearly everything, well, along with QB play. Salary cap means they have to get young players on the field contributing immediately, and starting in one year. There is parity in talent, the difference is mostly in organization.

Talking only about current teams, I think you can make arguments for those other teams being more or less on par with the Packers roster, but I don't think you can make a credible argument that any of them are clearly better. Look around. The Packers are the odds on favorite, along with the Pats, to go to the Super Bowl again this year. That's the top 2 teams in the league on paper. I agree with your argument about the team having great coaching, but there's no way to quantify the extent to which that results in special performance relative to the players' overall talent level. Guys like Tramon Williams and many others have become better by virtue of their time in Green Bay, but you just can't take performance on the field away from the players who are doing the peforming.

[Guiness]

Talking only about current teams, I think you can make arguments for those other teams being more or less on par with the Packers roster, but I don't think you can make a credible argument that any of them are clearly better. Look around. The Packers are the odds on favorite, along with the Pats, to go to the Super Bowl again this year. That's the top 2 teams in the league on paper. I agree with your argument about the team having great coaching, but there's no way to quantify the extent to which that results in special performance relative to the players' overall talent level. Guys like Tramon Williams and many others have become better by virtue of their time in Green Bay, but you just can't take performance on the field away from the players who are doing the peforming.

Did you just crown us paper champions??? Shame on you!

Bad coaching can be obvious, good coaching is more of a hindsight think. We had front row seats to Rod Marinelli and Mike Tice for bad. On the other hand, our secondary, which is considered to be one of the best in the league, consists of 2 UDFAs and a 5th round pick who was a waiver claim after being released by the team that drafted him.

[Yoop]

there isn't a GM in the league that wouldn't trade rosters with us in a new york heartbeat, we have 3.5 blue players on offense counting Finley and if he stays healthy that turns into a 4, AR,Sitton, Jennings, and Finley,on defense we have 5 blues, Woody,Williams, CM3, Raji and Collins, thats loaded, no other team can claim that, and Philly has a bunch of talent thats never played together, couple that up with the rest of the roster filled with red players and backups, and this is a very well stocked team, on paper, no one matches up imo.

[Pugger]

QUOTE=Guiness;608223]

I'm SURE you mean LG. Sitton is the RG, far from a hole there[/QUOTE]

Whoops!!! Egad, of course LG.

[sheepshead]

This thread is special.

[pbmax]

Food for thought: The Eagles are now unofficially worried about their O line after a bad preseason performance. And it had some problems last year. I don't think they can be labeled a juggernaut yet. And that roster still has holes at WR (Jackson has been banged up and injured before, Maclin is still limited), LB and safety.

[mraynrand]

Food for thought: The Eagles are now unofficially worried about their O line after a bad preseason performance. And it had some problems last year. I don't think they can be labeled a juggernaut yet. And that roster still has holes at WR (Jackson has been banged up and injured before, Maclin is still limited), LB and safety.

But Vick and Vince can still run it!

[mraynrand]

Hey that would be a great nickname for Philly's QB's One is a convict "Con" and "Vince" Young - ConVince!

Well, maybe not so great...

[Harlan Huckleby]

You can tell when a roster is special when the team bus pulls up.

[RashanGary]

I think we have a special roster. Stars on both sides of the ball. There are going to be young guys who step up this yer and become stars too. A star or two is born every year under Ted.