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  • #61
    Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
    What if Michael Vick were white
    He would have signed in as Ron Idaho.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #62
      Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
      ARod won the Superbowl with almost the same caliber of WRs IMO.
      You on that angel dust again?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
        ARod won the Superbowl with almost the same caliber of WRs IMO. I said decent talent and that is what he had. If he had been a great QB (the position he actually plays) then he would have went farther. Instead he is just a fast dude who can chuck it deep. Not much to get excited about IMO.
        Not even close. Joe Horn was a good receiver for a different team and a different era. There isn't much else there except at TE.

        Vick did not do all he could have to succeed in Atlanta, he has admitted as much. He really seemed to nose dive after Mora took over from Reeves. He fu**ed it up.

        But the talent is undeniable, running or throwing. The only question is age and injury. He might not last, and he might have spent his best years in the clink.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          Not even close. Joe Horn was a good receiver for a different team and a different era. There isn't much else there except at TE.

          Vick did not do all he could have to succeed in Atlanta, he has admitted as much. He really seemed to nose dive after Mora took over from Reeves. He fu**ed it up.

          But the talent is undeniable, running or throwing. The only question is age and injury. He might not last, and he might have spent his best years in the clink.
          Jennings > Crumpler but not by too much considering he was a TE
          Joe Horn = James Jones both good for crucial drops
          Peerlis Price < Driver but close for most of last year due to injuries
          TJ Ducket = Starks these guys arent WRs
          Brian Finneran = Jordy both fast White boys that bust out with 100 yd games now and then
          Warrick Dunn < Kuhn not by much both caught lots of passes

          Maybe I am on dust but I dont see a huge (Superbowl huge) difference.

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          • #65
            I stop reading after you said Jenning over Crumpler but not by much.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
              Jennings > Crumpler but not by too much considering he was a TE
              Joe Horn = James Jones both good for crucial drops
              Peerlis Price < Driver but close for most of last year due to injuries
              TJ Ducket = Starks these guys arent WRs
              Brian Finneran = Jordy both fast White boys that bust out with 100 yd games now and then
              Warrick Dunn < Kuhn not by much both caught lots of passes

              Maybe I am on dust but I dont see a huge (Superbowl huge) difference.
              Well, there is Finley for starters, though he has missed time, he did play last season. And while Horn was certainly a better receiver than Jones during his stint in New Orleans, he wasn't by his Atlanta days.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #67
                My bad, I said Horn but he didn't play for the Falcons until Vick went to jail. It was Michael Jenkins who was on the team. So Price as your #1, Jenkins as your # 2, Finnernan as the #3, and Crumpler at TE.

                And your trying to compare that to the Packers receiving corps which is arbuably the best in the NFL? Sorry but I highly disagree. Not to mention also the Falcons never had a top 10 defense with Vick, the past two seasons the Packers have been top 3 in total defense.

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                • #68
                  Here we go..Didn't take long for the money to fuck with his head..

                  Vick says, “You can’t design a defense to stop me”

                  www.ccso228@twitter.com

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                  • #69
                    ^ haha give me a break

                    He's saying he isnt the same QB who just runs and if you try to use a spy against him he's just going to dump it off to guys like Deshawn and McCoy. He's not saying that's he's so good that no defense can stop him.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by imscott72 View Post
                      Here we go..Didn't take long for the money to fuck with his head..

                      Vick says, “You can’t design a defense to stop me”

                      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...se-to-stop-me/
                      Top post under the article made me laugh

                      jpb12 says:
                      Sep 2, 2011 6:36 AM
                      They don’t have to. The good Lord designed him with hamstrings that last about 9 weeks.
                      Originally posted by 3irty1
                      This is museum quality stupidity.

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                      • #71
                        If Vick can stay healthy and play lights out then it's a good deal. But history is not on his side. We shall see. All I know is I'd take Rodgers over Vick and ANY OTHER QB OUT THERE including Brady, Brees and Manning (intil Rivers actually wins something he shouldn't be in the conversation).

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