When will be the time to worry about McCarthy?

[woodbuck27]

I'm concerned about the entire coaching staff as well as the schemes on both sides of the ball.

They've set themselves up to be a finesse team on both sides of the ball, something I am philosophically opposed to. They were absolutely manhandled last night.

I don't think smaller lineman translates to finesse, not with the emphasis on the run game.

One point someone made earlier about Guards and backs being to quick to move to the second level. While I am not certain about this observation, guards are combo blocking with the center and tackle on many plays and the assignment for moving out to the LB changes depending on the play and the motion of the LB.

That kind of play by play change in technique is going to take time to learn and game experience to perfect.

I am not sold on the finesse charge yet.

pbmax:

Did you read the thread O-Line Analysis by gbpackfan? It tells me that the middle of OUR fist string OL (Wels,Colledge and Spitz )didn't play bad.

It was the vets that failed in assignment to give Favre time. I am surprised that Mark Tauscher had an off night and even that seems to be on others (ie Davenport). Even Hendo was off last night.

I'm not getting a read on Chad Clifton's game last night, as yet.

GO PACK !!

[SD GB fan]

its time to worry about McCarthy when the players stop their sloppy play and we still lose to a team of similar talent.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I won't worry much about McCarthy for this season, or at least through the first half of this season.

[Packers4Glory]

I like what I'm seeing from M3 and I like what he has to say about things when asked. How the Packers looked against SD had more to do w/ the O-line trying to run a new scheme for the first time against a live opponent who probably has the best front 7 in football and a defensive look that isn't very common in the 3-4. Probably not the type of team you want to start out w/ when running something brand new and w/ 2 rookies starting.

defense didn't look too bad accpet Carroll who just sucks balls. I hate seeing that assclown on the field.

[woodbuck27]

I'm not as worried about McCarthy as I am about Jagz and that run game. If it doesn't take off, we're in trouble. The guy has 1 or 2 years in the system and now he's supposed to install it as our main run package. I'm a little uneasy there. We'll see though.

I'm with you on that.

[Terry]

its time to worry about McCarthy when the players stop their sloppy play and we still lose to a team of similar talent.

Well, like I said, I'm not worried now. Not yet. However, you make it sound like the players have one job and the HC another. I see sloppy play as the responsibility of the coaches, full stop.

[pbmax]

pbmax:

Did you read the thread O-Line Analysis by gbpackfan? It tells me that the middle of OUR fist string OL (Wels,Colledge and Spitz )didn't play bad.

It was the vets that failed in assignment to give Favre time. I am surprised that Mark Tauscher had an off night and even that seems to be on others (ie Davenport). Even Hendo was off last night.

I'm not getting a read on Chad Clifton's game last night, as yet.

GO PACK !!

I saw it Woodie and it did seem to highlight the players that the coverage of the game in th epeper said blew blitz pickup. I believe it.

For McCarthy, what I am concerned about it the public representations he makes that he doesn't back up.

First, it was Harris will be at the OTAs and then no Harris. It was clearly beyond his control, and he should have stayed silent. (Maybe Al stayed away to INCREASE the chance of a new contract, given the way he played Sat).

Now it was the culture of winning in Thurs and Fridays papers, then failing to prepare to win, even to compete strongly, for almost two quarters.

I get the sense he doesn't know how to deliver on the promises he makes publicly, and doesn't distinguish what he CAN control from what he CAN'T.

If he delivers wins and beats expectations, no one will care. Anything else he is making the job harder.

[woodbuck27]

pbmax:

Did you read the thread O-Line Analysis by gbpackfan? It tells me that the middle of OUR fist string OL (Wels,Colledge and Spitz )didn't play bad.

It was the vets that failed in assignment to give Favre time. I am surprised that Mark Tauscher had an off night and even that seems to be on others (ie Davenport). Even Hendo was off last night.

I'm not getting a read on Chad Clifton's game last night, as yet.

GO PACK !!

I saw it Woodie and it did seem to highlight the players that the coverage of the game in th epeper said blew blitz pickup. I believe it.

For McCarthy, what I am concerned about it the public representations he makes that he doesn't back up.

First, it was Harris will be at the OTAs and then no Harris. It was clearly beyond his control, and he should have stayed silent. (Maybe Al stayed away to INCREASE the chance of a new contract, given the way he played Sat).

Now it was the culture of winning in Thurs and Fridays papers, then failing to prepare to win, even to compete strongly, for almost two quarters.

I get the sense he doesn't know how to deliver on the promises he makes publicly, and doesn't distinguish what he CAN control from what he CAN'T.

If he delivers wins and beats expectations, no one will care. Anything else he is making the job harder.

I'd sum Mike McCarthy up this way.

He's a Rookie Head Coach and hopefully he grows into the job to handle himself as we Trust - Hope he will. He's not expected to not be somewhat naive.

He has alot of pressure on him too I expect but DAM. We were 4-12 last season and it will take longer than some believe. Too much to fix this season.

GO PACKERS ! HOLD THE FAITH !!

[BooHoo]

It is way to early for me to be overlly concerned about M3. However, he is an unproven commodity. He doesn't have a head coach track record and does not come from a winner system. No other team appeared interested in him last year. So I have a guarded concern.