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**woodbuck27** · 08-13-2006, 09:49 AM

As usual I have to agree with you B.

This analysis is honest and accurate.

Time for some cuts. BJ Sander will be among the first. He's gone !

Ted ??

GO PACKERS ! HOLD THE FAITH ! !

**BallHawk** · 08-13-2006, 09:54 AM

Was Rodgers INT just a bad throw or just a great play by Cromatire.

**Bretsky** · 08-13-2006, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by BallHawk

Was Rodgers INT just a bad throw or just a great play by Cromatire.

Both; it was overthrown and would have been hard for the WR to knock down. That play should have been overturned though as he bobbled the ball and the ref missed it.

**BananaMan** · 08-13-2006, 09:57 AM

Excellent list, B.

Tracy White is a LB from Seattle that we picked up in FA this offseason. TT drafted him while in Seattle.

But, if Steve Josue (remember him?) is any indication, the coaches don't really care how a LB does against backups, even if he is flying all over the field.

And yeah, as long as Ryan doesn't screw up massively, the job is his.

**red** · 08-13-2006, 10:01 AM

i was going to do my own take on the game and call it "rat droppings", but i'll just post here instead

hawk started to play better last night and showed he will be ok like TT said

a-rod was very impressive

jennings looked good except for the drop, it looked to me like the cb made a good play to puch it out from behind, but i only saw one replay

ryan has what BJ lacks, potential

and yes b, i think i did a thing awhile back and showed that almost all of shermans 3rd round picks are no longer with the team, or soon to go. and he had alot of 3rd round picks

a couple losers for me were boeritawhatever. who was lucky he just got his knee down on the fumble, and then the radio made it sound like he didn't really go after the INT that rodgers threw. i don't see him making the team

and carroll, why can't he learn to quit holding his guy and shut the f@ck up. he had two times where a pass wasn't completeted on him and both times he could have been called for holding or pass interference. he's still a liability

and yes, the o-line is something to worry about. they almost got brett killed a few times in the first 5 minutes of the game. rivers had all day to throw, brett had about 2 seconds on every pass

**GBRulz** · 08-13-2006, 10:02 AM

good points, B....but until our o-line improves, what can we expect to see from any of our RB's?

and having Gado return kicks? What's up with that?

**BallHawk** · 08-13-2006, 10:03 AM

Thanks, B.

**Bretsky** · 08-13-2006, 10:11 AM

Red,

Good points about Carroll; I have NO idea why, but even when he does have great coverage he always leverages those hands in and they could call a penalty every time. He needs to read better when to turn around to knock the ball away and stop playing grabby with the guy he covers.

Boerigter, it would not surprise me at all if he's gone. I'm praying Jennings and Gardner (who did OK) continue to emerge. I can't stomach having to rely on Fergy anymore, and he always makes two great plays in the preseason that are good enough for the coaches to dream and keep him around.

**Fosco33** · 08-13-2006, 10:13 AM

Overall Hawk played 'ok'. He had some moments of deserved optimism - but also was beat on a couple passes and got picked up by a RB easily on a weak blitz attempt.

Favre played 'ok'. He made some good throws but took too many hits. Key drops by Driver and Jennings lost a TD and stalled a redzone effort, respectively.

ARod looked shaky in the two minute drill but overall much more confident (poise). He didn't seem afraid to run and recovered his fumble on a sack. I hope he gets a lot more PT with the 1st string offense during preseason - meaning I think Favre can handle the offense without getting unnecessarily injured.

A few of Ryan's punts were impressive - especially from the nosebleeds (closest I'd come to a ball all night). Everyone in the stands (lots of Packer fans) - were like, "Who's that!" Given the great knowledge learned here, I was able to educate others on our next punter's background.

Packer fans shouldn't worry too much about this game - my feelings haven't changed on this season's potential.

**woodbuck27** · 08-13-2006, 10:19 AM

Good report Fosco33 and yes. hang in there.

Hope that the BBQ went OK for you.

GO PACKERS ! HOLD THE FAITH ! !

**Patler** · 08-13-2006, 10:26 AM

Mt comments:

The interception - I didn't think the throw to Boerigter on the interception was that bad of a throw. I think the play did demonstrate why Boerigter is a long-shot to make the team. He should be here to allow the QB's to put balls up in "jump ball" situations like that. The receiver should catch it, or make certain the defender does not. We saw last year that Ferguson is not good at it. Boerigter appears to be no better. For being 6'3" and 220 lbs. he plays kind of small. If he can't provide that, he doesn't offer much to the team.

Harris - His play last night concerns me, but only because he looked a bit old and slow the last 4 games or so last year, too. I hope he hasn't hit a wall where he has lost a little quickness. He doesn't have enough to lose some and still be effective.

Manning - No surprise that Manning was less than stellar. He started fast last year, but really didn't offer much the whole second half of the season. White or Campbell are more likely to get a 6th roster spot at linebacker than Manning.

Underwood - If Underwood is lost for the season, it is a blow. Nothing but positives about him in TC. I believe he has 5 interceptions in camp. Leading tackler on ST last year. This would be a very disappointing loss.

The depth of the 2006 roster has already take some big hits, with Klemm and Barry out. If Underwood is too, that's not good. There is still a month before the first game.

**BallHawk** · 08-13-2006, 10:35 AM

Good observations, Patler.

**Bretsky** · 08-13-2006, 10:40 AM

The interception - I didn't think the throw to Boerigter on the interception was that bad of a throw. I think the play did demonstrate why Boerigter is a long-shot to make the team. He should be here to allow the QB's to put balls up in "jump ball" situations like that. The receiver should catch it, or make certain the defender does not. We saw last year that Ferguson is not good at it. Boerigter appears to be no better. For being 6'3" and 220 lbs. he plays kind of small. If he can't provide that, he doesn't offer much to the team.

Maybe I need to look at that play again.

As I recall, Boerigter didn't have the CB beat; I thougth the CB was behind Boerigter. So if you are going to go with a jump ball and give the guy a chance, you need to underthrow that a bit so he can go up and get it.

I was pretty frustrated by then so maybe I have the details incorrect, but the throw seemed to lead the CB and be a perfect throw for him. Boerigter might have had a chance to jump and knock it down but little chance to catch it.

Am I remembering it wrong ?

B

**Packnut** · 08-13-2006, 10:40 AM

Rodgers

I also have been a HUGE Rodgers critic but I saw improvement last night from last season so there is hope. He still has a bad habit of locking his eyes into his primary WR as soon as the ball is snapped. I believe it was the 3rd and 10 play from the SD 10 when he locked on to a WR on the left and because of it, the DB who had another WR in the end zone came up and helped make the play.

Someone on the Packer coaching staff need's to work with him on it.

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