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"Favre and Gado" OR "Rodgers and Shawn Alexan
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i think Carolina's luck got turned around by adding two of the best dlinemen in the league within two years. They really had phenominal luck with Jenkins (don't know anything about his college career other than he was a 2nd in 2001) and then they got the deal of a century with Peppers the following year. If only we had one player like that, let alone two
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I don't agree with that. Giving Rodgers 3 years on the bench will only help his development and his confidence. I think with another strong draft and if a few things happen to fall our way, we could be back in shortly. Our OLine should be pretty damn good by next year, and we'll have 16 million+ in cap space with the players we have right now and the cap sitting still, let alone some more money tied up in players we won't elect to resign. Considering that we front loaded pretty much every contract last year, that 16 is looking very conservative. No way do we pay Chuck another 10 million.Originally posted by GregJenningsMy main point is that in 2009 that 12 million dollars will be more helpfull twards our superbowl success than Favre is right now. Anyone who thinks we have superbowl hopes is dillsuional. We might as well prepare for a day when we do have that shot. Sorry, but it's not as soon as you all would like to think.
I think we'll be about 8-8 this year. I think you're a little early jumping the gun in that we're going to be awful this year, and we'll have a ton of cap space. We can go after a guard if the line is a castrophy. We can sign a receiver. There are plenty of options!
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Re: "Favre and Gado" OR "Rodgers and Shawn Al
For Gaud's sake man "don't shoot the messenger before he arrives".Originally posted by GregJenningsThe reason I ask is because next year we could afford the most expensive player on the market with Favres salary. I didn't look at the FA list, but I'm guessing a top tier RB will be available.
If we want to get over the hump, I'm starting to think the best thing we can do is move forward like Tenn did with McNair.
Allow Favre to have the say in HIS retirement. Straighten up and walk right PLEASE. At least, wait till the season's half finished, before you execute the BEST QB we've had in maybe OUR histrory.
Favre is under contract till 2011 also Packer fan. He may well return again next season and I believe he'll play well enough to justify that decision, or he'll let go. It's his place 100% to decide that not your's - OURS.
GregJennings. Did you see something last night that says he must go or are you just being not smart? Back yourself up PLEASE. The season hasn't even begun and this from you. BS !!!!
Have some Packer pride PLEASE.
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You love Favre -That is absolute crap from you man.What is it?Originally posted by GregJenningsI love Favre. I just want the Packers to win and I think that money can be better spent. Even if it's not spent right away, it's rolled forward like TT did this year.
If Thompson keeps drafting well, we'll have to pay for these players when the 2nd contract comes around. Collins, Rodgers, Jennings, Hawk, Spitz, Colledge, Hodge, next years class, ect....Assuming we get more than one player out of each draft like Sherman did we should find ourselves in the number crunch that most good teams are in some day. Rolling that space forward will insure we have a little something extra to make that push when it matters.
My main point is that in 2009 that 12 million dollars will be more helpfull twards our superbowl success than Favre is right now. Anyone who thinks we have superbowl hopes is dillsuional. We might as well prepare for a day when we do have that shot. Sorry, but it's not as soon as you all would like to think.
Be a man and don't talk out both sides of your mouth. Be a Man !!** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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I think we're are being way too critical of Gado after this one game. If Shawn Alexander was in that backfield last night, he wouldn't have done a damn thing. There was absolutely NOTHING to run through. The o-line is and absolute mess right now, I hope they can look at the film of this game, and improve next week.
I, for one, am glad that we had to go against this good d-line, and am glad that Schottenheimer blitzed so much, because this is what this line needs to improve. If we went against Sally d-lines all preseason, we would be ill-prepared against the Bears game one.
The only positive (if this is a positive) is that the RB's and the tackles got it taken to them more so than Colledge, Wells, and Spitz. I thought that Colledge and Wells did pretty good especially in pass blocking, but the worst blockers were the RB's. Hell, even Henderson got knocked around like a ragdoll a couple of times. But, at least we know these guys CAN play, so I'd rather have seen that than the guards looking like shit.
Our run-blocking got competely blown up. One thing I noticed was that the guards and RBs were too quick to run to the second level and leave their first responsibility. We had lineman 7 yards upfield while RB's were getting nailed by blitzing LB's at the line of scrimmage. But, this is why we play preseason. We all knew this unit was going to make alot of mistakes. This week will be the BEST teaching tool MM has had since being here. At least now, he has REAL GAME situations to show these guys and now it is up to them to learn and adjust."...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre
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McNair is a HOF QB and I believe Tenn did the right thing by their organization. They might not be as good right now, but when VY develops the move they made will pay dividends.
Fans have hearts of gold. I understand your love for Favre. He was the greatest QB I've ever watched. Age gets us all and the NFL salary cap can be a cruel thing. I just hope he breaks that record, has a nice season and bows out gracefully. I don't want it to get ugly and I don't want Rodgers on the bench next year.
I just don't think the Packers have a chance at a SB. I don't think Favre is worth that $$. I think it is time to turn the page. I think he'll have a good year, but in relation to what his salary can bring, I don't think it is enough.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Tennessee shit on McNair like they had all eaten bad sushi. McNair was as expensive as he was this year because he restructured for the good of the team with the promise that his payday would come later. It's not his fault the team doesn't know how to add and dumped an excellent player who did what was necessary for the good of the team because it was more convenient for them. I hope they end up 32nd in the league in EVERY quarterback statistic there is this year. I would be sorely disappointed in the Green Bay organization if they tried to pull that kind of crap on Brett Favre. No matter how much you pay him, he is still our best chance to win and that is the guy you play. The one that gives you your best chance to win. Give the guy an o-line and you'll see he is as good as he ever was."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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Loaded question, and it's pretty silly. Football Futures shows the top available FA RBs next year being Tiki Barber and Ahman Green. Considering the Giants will very likely lock up Tiki (even though he's getting old), that doesn't leave much available."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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You have to think about the fact that they're still paying him the salary he gave up a few years ago for the good of the team.Originally posted by GregJenningsIt's not the greatness of the player but the greatness of the player in relation to his salary"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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It's loaded because we can afford Favre AND a FA RB, and we don't know how Ahman will do this year. We could have afforded a FA RB this year AND Favre."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersIt's loaded because we can afford Favre AND a FA RB, and we don't know how Ahman will do this year. We could have afforded a FA RB this year AND Favre.
Yea, the Packers are going to be loaded next year, cap wise. They don't NEED to clear Favre off the books next year to make a splash in free agency.....
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