Sharing: Are Grant & Starks really about the same?

[rbaloha1]

RG looked good today due to the numerous gaps created by the line.

The Bears seemed more keyed-up to stop Starks -- textbook lower body tackling. Starks went down too easily today.

[pbmax]

Its easier to tackle someone with good form when they are going sideways.

But Starks might need to learn to just stick his nose in there and press it, hoping some crease or room forms.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Agreed. Grant has seemed to run well against two very good run defenses in Chicago and Minnesota. I think no nonsense works against those guys. Hit your hole and get what you can. Starks didn't have a ton of room, but he didn't hit it up their hard. He looked Brandon Jackson.

Exactly what I was thinking. Seemed he'd get the the line, head one way and then try to make another cut. Not the running style that works for our offense and especially not against the Bears.

[rbaloha1]

Its easier to tackle someone with good form when they are going sideways.

But Starks might need to learn to just stick his nose in there and press it, hoping some crease or room forms.

True like dat. In the open field, Starks was unable to juke Briggs. Briggs textbook tackled him straight-on. Starks still needs to understand how to dodge defenders.

[3irty1]

I made my decision on how I'll decide who I like better.

If a Starks fumble happens first, I'm a Grant fan. I love Grant's ball security and feel its a severely underrated aspect of his game.

If Starks catches a ball more than 10 yards down the field first, I'm a Starks fan. I love a versatile weapon.

Well its official, I prefer Ryan Grant.

[vince]

Week 1
Grant's (9/40) 4, 5, 10, 3, 4, 2, 8, 3, 1
Starks (12/57) 0, 5, 10, (-2), 17, 4, 2, 3, 9, 3, 2, 4.

Week 2
Grant (6/25) 1, 9, 4, 6, 3, 2
Starks (9/85) 6, 8, 1, 14, 40, 0, 6, (-2), 12

Week 3
Grant (17/92) 13, 2, 9, (-1), 9, 5, 13, 14, 11, 10, (-1), 0, 1, 4, 0, 0, 3 (
Starks (11/5) 3, 2, 1, (-1), (-1), 8, (-1), 0, 1, (-5 and fumble), 1

Grant - 32 carries for 157 yards
Starks - 32 carries for 147 yards

Thanks for compiling that Patler.

101 yds. a game, 4.75 yds. a carry by the two-headed tandem. Throw that together with an epic QB with about a 120 QB rating. That's gonna be tough to beat if they can keep it up. Grant stepped it up today with some sharp cutbacks. Looks like he's getting his old form back. This team can get a lot better yet.

[pbmax]

I knew we shouldn't have cut Grant.

[channtheman]

Grant looked great yesterday, Starks looked like crap. Everyone is going to have bad games though. I just wish this team would stick with the hot hand like they have said they would. I understand Starks is the 3rd down and shotgun back, but why was he running on 1st down late in the game yesterday when he fumbled? With him having such a crappy game, I'm keeping him out of there as much as possible.

[pbmax]

Grant looked great yesterday, Starks looked like crap. Everyone is going to have bad games though. I just wish this team would stick with the hot hand like they have said they would. I understand Starks is the 3rd down and shotgun back, but why was he running on 1st down late in the game yesterday when he fumbled? With him having such a crappy game, I'm keeping him out of there as much as possible.

Someone at JSO saif Newhouse, while doing many good things, didn't help much on Starks outside runs to the right. At least one of those Briggs nearly decapitated him. But that wasn't his only struggle.

[rbaloha1]

IMO part of Starks poor performance was due to the poor field conditions. It seemed Starks was stuck in mud.

[Pugger]

Soldier Field's grass is a disgrace.

[Joemailman]

IMO part of Starks poor performance was due to the poor field conditions. It seemed Starks was stuck in mud.

i didn't see a lot of mud and it didn't seem to bother Grant. Starks just had a bad game.

[pbmax]

I blame an irrational fear of sprinkler plumbing.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Grant looked great yesterday, Starks looked like crap .

That pretty well sums it up. I'm not sure if Grant looked great, that's a bridge too far for me to cross, but he was back to his top form, which I never expected. Starks looked like he lost his confidence, turned very hesitant.
Hopefully he'll get the mojo back.

[pbmax]

Someone at JSO saif Newhouse, while doing many good things, didn't help much on Starks outside runs to the right. At least one of those Briggs nearly decapitated him. But that wasn't his only struggle.

We now have visual evidence of how Lance Briggs was so effective stopping outside runs.

From GBPG:



And its small things like this, technique and experience of an O lineman, that can cause RBs to look so good one week and completely pathetic the next.