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  • #61
    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    Excellent point. If you wait for the future to happen, then you know for sure. Takes the guess work out.
    If you want me to hypothesize, I will. I think Starks is going to get the bulk of the carries, until he fumbles too many times, or messes up on pass pro, or can't find a hole to run through. Then Grant will be the back, and it will they will rotate through on adequate preformance after another.

    It really doesn't matter who is running the football. This offense rolls on by Rodgers throwing the ball down field. The run is diversion in this offense.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by hoosier View Post
      I have a question about the poll, or maybe it is more like a criticism. Supposing we feel that Starks and Grant are "really about the same" but we also suspect one or both of them are not that into "sharing." Two equals who don't play well with others: the poll does not allow for that possibility.
      That possibility is covered by the "fuck you" portion of the last option.

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      • #63
        Grants best runs are lyrical and sweet and are finished with him as untouched as a virgin.
        Clean pants and six points.
        Violins and flutes.

        Some Grant Highlights without violins and flutes

        Starks runs are punishing, violent and probing.
        Humbuckers and Marshall amps.

        Ted Created a Monster
        [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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        • #64
          so you're saying you like it rough? me too!

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          • #65
            Starks looked very good today, although I did not think he looked very fast once he broke into the clear on his 40 yard run.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #66
              Needs to improve open field vision. Also must realize secondary players can only tackle him low. Learn to vary speed in the open field.

              On the verge of becoming a beast.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                Grant's carries - 4, 5, 10, 3, 4, 2, 8, 3, 1
                Starks, carries - 0, 5, 10, (-2), 17, 4, 2, 3, 9, 3, 2, 4.

                There is a consistency to Grant that is comforting (positve yardage on every carry).
                There is a big play potential with Starks that is exciting (17 yard burst for a TD).
                All-in-all, an awful lot of their runs produce about the same results, even if they look different getting it.
                Week 1
                Grant's carries - 4, 5, 10, 3, 4, 2, 8, 3, 1
                Starks, carries - 0, 5, 10, (-2), 17, 4, 2, 3, 9, 3, 2, 4.

                Week 2
                Grant - 1, 9, 4, 6, 3, 2
                Starks - 6, 8, 1, 14, 40, 0, 6, (-2), 12

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                • #68
                  I wonder if Ryan Grant is a little unhappy with the number of touches.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #69
                    I think that's the right distribution. Perhaps they could have run it more today, but Starks is more explosive while Grant remains reliable. You could argue that they should ride Starks more, but I think the RB by Committee approach will serve them both (in terms of health and strength) and the team well as the season continues.

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                    • #70
                      when you watch the two run right now its clear that starks is the better back. he hits the hole harder and seems more sturdy or something

                      i thought grant ran good today too, but he looks more jerky and flimsy if you know what i mean

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        Starks looked very good today, although I did not think he looked very fast once he broke into the clear on his 40 yard run.
                        ya, but that's what he is. He's a guy who can get an 8 to 12 yard run several times a game.

                        Maybe I'm biased, but Grant looks slower to me this year. No hard cut. I would like Starks to get a higher percentage of carries.

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                        • #72
                          Grant still is getting into it. I don't think we've seen the best Ryan Grant yet. That will come. It's really not fair to compare them apples to apples. You have to take into consideration down, formation, and distance. I really feel you can plug either one into the same situation and get almost the same result.

                          Having 2 backs to split time is good for us. Hopefully they will stay fresh and healthy.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            I wonder if Ryan Grant is a little unhappy with the number of touches.
                            I think he's probably happy to still have a job.
                            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by red View Post
                              when you watch the two run right now its clear that starks is the better back. he hits the hole harder and seems more sturdy or something

                              i thought grant ran good today too, but he looks more jerky and flimsy if you know what i mean
                              IMO Grant is more fluid in the passing game since he is operating in more space.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
                                I think he's probably happy to still have a job.
                                Yup -- million dollar pay cut was wise.

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